Tanzaku-Gai University [Events]

[Y]

All:

They would continue their walk down the hall, finding the appropriately, and neatly, nameplates doorway. The font was a very classical font, with serifs, but subtle ones, ones that made it feel sophisticated, not like the work of the teenage girl obsessed with caligraphy. The name plate was glossed, unlike the other baser nameplates, which would seem to differentiate this room as the study of someone important. The 'left' referred to by the man would come to modify the stairs, not the door, as the only doors were on the right side, where they would overlook the campus. Where the doors to the windows seen from the street were was anyones guess.

All the trim work in the hall was a nice cream, with the wall proper being a neutral brow. Cincinnatus' room was different, with a nice green color about it, and a view of the plaza which was now empty of students, and various buildings around the campus. The desk was occupied, with a man with evenly grayed hair. His face was expressive, as he seemed to be leaning back in his chair, intently reading a pile of papers. The entrance to his room seemed uncouth in nature, as the Dragon of Konoha shoved his way into the room. Cincinnatus was startled at first, but then laughed as the man stated his purpose directly.

"What a squad, what a squad thats come for my mission! All ninja, I presume? Its good to see some interest in this mission." His voice was not very low, but it did seem to resonate in the room. He rose, and offered his hand to Gosei, acknowledging the fact that a natural leader had already emerged. 

"To business, of course. As all of you are quite aware, a small team of students were sent on an archaeological dig some time ago. After they failed to meet at a rendezvous point, I sent another team to go check on them. Both teams have failed to return to the University. Not wanting to send more students whose lives may be at risk, I have decided to enlist you're aid, to attempt to understand what happened, and to save the lives of the students, if possible. While there, I expect you to learn everything you can about the site, not damage the artifacts, and of course, avoid dying. We have no reason to think that the site is particularly dangerous, and perhaps something odd is simply holding the teams there, but caution is advised. Do any here read Latin or have a particularly strong grasp of history?" He seemed to descend into thought as he delivered the speech, his fave turning towards the ground, and his clothing becoming slowly rumpled. At the last line he picked back up and looked at the group.

M

Nieve would see very little of note with her sensory powers. The only interesting detail was that Cincinnatus' chakra signature seemed to be particularly strong for someone untrained in the ninja arts, perhaps that of somebody who had a brief study in chakra for a time that has long passed.

[Solus]

SPOILER: Click to show

Y: Wow, fifty shades of Grey much? o.O
Draven: How do you do that?

Sense Motive
Rank: "E"
Skill: Skill
Effect: User is skilled at detecting falsehoods and true intentions.
Special: ---
Drawback: ---
Description: A successful check lets the user avoid from being bluffed or lied to (see the Acting Skill). The user can also use this skill to determine when "something is up" (that is, something odd is going on) or access someone's trustworthiness.
Hunch: This use of the skill involves making a gut assessment of the social situation. The user can get the feeling from another's behavior that something is wrong, such as when they are talking to an imposter. Alternatively, the user can get the feeling that someone is trustworthy. Very Difficult Difficulty.
Sense Enchantment: User can tell that someone's behavior is being influenced by an Enchantment effect even if that person is not aware of it. The usual check is Very Difficult, but if the target is dominated, the check is Difficult because of the limited range of the target's activities.
Discern Secret Message: The user may use Sense Motive to detect a hidden message transmitted by Acting. In this case the Check is opposed by the Acting check. For each piece of information relating to the message the user is missing takes a -10 penalty to the check. If the success is by 20 or less, the user knows that something hidden is being communicated, but cannot learn anything specific. If the check is beaten by 25 or more, the user intercepts and understands the message. If the check is failed by 20 or less, the user does not detect anything. If the fail is by 25 or more, they might infer false information.

Cannot roll multiple times except for each Acting check made against the user. Each time learned user gets 1 die roll to increase the skill.
Limit: ---

1 times learned.
2 skill points at time of learning

+1 per roll due to Con-Artist trait

W

ith a simple reference to politics the lady from Yuki dismissed any notion of interest in intervillage affairs. "Fair enough, at least your choices will not be clouded with such trivialities." A sudden warmth spread through his upper arm as her nails traced a path over his arm, attempting to feel the muscle on the other side of the cloth. With the thin summer clothes Gosei was wearing she could feel right through them anyway. Slightly confused the man looked sideways at her face. Was she flirting? He could not really say from her intonation. Perhaps she was just inexperienced at it? Because feeling him up like this could in the Kazeraikou's mind only be explained in one way: She was flirting.

Of course a third party observer to his thoughts would probably note that it was actually his ego that prevented the man from interpreting the action of Nieve in any other way. "About one hundred and thirty one." The Godaime stated. That might seem like a low number until one realizes that he was probably using the units of Hi no Kuni. It was not boasting either, his continued training in the arts of Dian Xue Shu gave the Kazeraikou this strength through arduous training. He would ask her more but by this time they had already reached the room.

The office of this Cincinnatus, named after a man who was given ultimate power to defend the country and after that gave that power away again willingly in ancient times, was decorated just like one would expect. Classical, with a few decorative elements, but overall sober. The man got up, extending his arm. Extending his own the Godaime Hokage would shake hands with this person. He seemed exited, delighted and relieved at the same time. If one would guess this issue had been gnawing at this man's conscience for quite a while now.

"All of us are, my name is Kazeraikou Gosei, at your service." Of course the name would be familiar to a fellow Fierian, especially to one at the helm of an institution such as this university. The man shortly explained the situation, basically he knew nothing other than that his students would disappear whenever they went to these ruins. "Of course I am well versed in the history of this country." the aristocrat noted. His family history, interwoven with that of the country had spurred his education in this aspect. "Et lingua Latina cognosco. Peritum sum."

[try4]

We moved into an upper level of the university into a man named Cincinnatus' room; before that, I noticed the snow kunoichi Nieve rub up on Gosei.. I had a feeling this woman liked this man and she was continuously proving my point. I stayed near the back of the group, as the women started to move towards this white-haired male. For a second, perhaps even more than that, the icy blue eyes of the Snow-ninja engaged my own and I did not waver in the stare off. My attention would be soon redirected, though, as the elder professor informed us further about the missing students. My ears perked when he spoke of this language Latin and my mood went down when he mentioned history.

All I possessed of my own history was bits and pieces of who I was before my time as "Dragon" Wazaru's underling. When Gosei spoke in a language foreign to me, I assumed that that had been the ancient tongue in which Cincinnatus spoke of. I stood near the twin known as Vi, looking ahead at the others while wondering what could be blocking the students from escaping the dig site. Of course, as I knew not the Latin language, I did not speak up.

[Nira]

ooc: Screw this, no more training here. I haven't had luck this bad since I mistook a police officer for a hooker.

<Exit Training Thread>

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Tarah Featherook's eyes narrowed briefly, as the two foreign girls conversed with Gosei. The aura of her soul was painted with envy, but she didn't act on her emotions. Now wasn't the time, and any interruption or outburst could easily be taken the wrong way.

The hallway was dreadfully bland. Typical of an educational institution. Their color palette was somehow designed specifically to trigger drowsiness with enough visual exposure. It'd be more interesting if everything was painted a single color. Then at least it'd look odd.

Tarah yawned.

Thankfully, there was a shift in hue upon entering the supposed study of Cincinnatus. The green walls were refreshing to stare into, and the campus was well in view from the window.

As Cincinnatus provided the background information leading to his assistance request, Tarah studied the nature of the scholar's chakra.

The description took roughly enough time for the chakra examination to conclude.

Tarah frowned as she listened to the details. A couple limits and boundaries were being placed on the method they'd have to use to accomplish their goals. Rather inconvenient. A lot of her skills were destructive, which meant they couldn't be used in the presence of artifacts in the dig site.

---

The Phoros Legion, a collective of six other personality fragments, began to discuss among themselves in Tarah's mind. Their conversation hidden to all who didn't have invasive telepathy capabilities, and as fast as thoughts allowed them to speak. Tarah, still the active personality, received the information as ideas of her own.

Alida Nefare, a former gladiator, spoke first. "This man hires assassins and warriors, when he claims he does not have proof of danger. Could he be lying?"

"The dude's just being careful, I think," said the musician, Tanni Orval. "Dunno why they think it isn't dangerous, though. When more than one whole group of people go poof, it's gotta be risky, yeah?"

Deena Baycloud mentally nodded. "If the students disappeared due to an attacker, or a kidnapping, it would be difficult to engage any foes if damage against artifacts is to be avoided. It's a likely scenario, as well."

"Likely?" Janice Knight asked. "Likely how?"

"As our bard has said, they disappeared in whole groups," said Deena.

"Mmhm," Elsie Veratrose interjected. "A team implies at least three people. One is a solo agent, two is a pair, but anything more will enter the territory of a team. Somehow, two entire groups, containing three or more students, have gone missing."

Aryia Luseen sighed. "Poor kids, how frightening that experience must be. I do hope they aren't slain."

"Right, whatever," said Elsie, "so as I was-"

Deena interrupted. "The team would have to be huddled together to all be caught by a collapse of some sort. The bigger a group is, the less likely all of them would go missing from a single natural event or unlucky obstruction. Two entire groups, at least six people from our guess, were taken out of play, and unable to report back. They were either individually targeted, or had poor enough fortune and positioning to be trapped or killed simultaneously. The existence of enemies is much more likely than, say, each team entering a different cave, and each cave's entrance being blocked by rubble when all the team members were inside."

"What she said, yeah." Elsie shrugged.

Alida decided to add one last thought. "Less likely than enemies, and more likely than extremely bad luck, would be traps. That'll depend on the civilization, though. Be sure to ask the man if he does not bring it up."

---

Tarah closed her eyes briefly as she processed the conclusion provided by her alter egos, alongside whatever information her chakra sensing collected.

When Cincinnatus asked about history and Latin, Tarah turned back to look questioningly at her soul sister, Vi.

Using Know Chakra to gather chakra information, should be identical to the information attained by Nieve.

---

Vi was more of a scholar than Tarah, so she appreciated the simple and direct design of the university's interior. Due to the color of the hallway, she began to crave a bowl of vanilla-flavored frozen yogurt, with a side of fudge.

Thoughts of vanilla drifted to mint, when the group reached their destination.

Cincinnatus sounded quite excitable. Vi was expecting him to be more offended when Gosei barged in, but this was not the case.

As the man began to explain the situation, Vi channeled some soul energies into her eyes to inspect the aura of emotion that surrounded him. She wanted to know if he was honest about his feelings. If he really was such a cheery man, Vi could only grow to like him more.

Then, of course, the situation with the archaeological dig. As unfortunate as it was for the students to go missing, Vi couldn't help but be more interested in whatever artifacts and relics there were to be found. It may be cold to be more concerned with material objects than other soul-bound bodies, but Vi found it hard to feel any lasting emotional attachment to strangers.

They could be horrible people who deserved whatever the universe threw at them, who knows?

Tarah caught Vi's eye as the subject of history was brought up.

"I do have significant experience with ancient history," said Vi. "However, I haven't focused as much on that recently, so my knowledge is a fair bit disheveled."

Using Soul Sight to confirm emotions.

[Captain M]

Kijo no Shimo, curious!

Placing a finger along her chin, Nieve studied Cincinnatus. His chakra signature was by far the weakest in the room. Not because it was not there, simply because it had not the level of training that the team had. Still, it was not like any other regular human. There was some power there, as if he had perhaps at some point studied or trained his chakra. She also felt something else of interest while using the Mind's Eye of Kagura. Slowly turning toward Tarah and then Vi she noticed something off with their chakra. How can two individuals have the same exact chakra signature? Had it been a clone, Nieve would have been able to pick up on the difference. But this was different. She could not figure out the different chakra signature wise between the two girls, she had never felt such a thing before. She stared for a long while toward Tarah without saying anything.

She was pulled out of her staring by the voice of the professor. The kunoichi was a woman of science, she understood the importance of such institutions and had much respect for a professor of history. Still his chakra was quite curious to her. Perhaps she would ask about it later. But asking questions meant social interaction. Could she knock him out and perform some experiments on his body? She rolled her eyes at her lack of empathy. Doing such a thing could start a war. Pricilia would not be proud of her head of research.

"I know of World History." Nieve admitted. She was not a full blown historian though. But she advanced in the matter, mostly having studied it back in Yukigakure no Sato or in her short trip to Hi no Kuni. The blue haired medic did not know Latin though, preferring the language of mathematics before all else. Still she looked toward Gosei in amazement as she heard him speak Latin. "Impressive." She whispered beneath her breath.

I must dissect his brain!

[Corvus]

Akiko remained silent, no other questions directed toward her as she remained with the group. While all the others were observing the hallway they walked through, Akiko's head was beginning to spin off into day dreams. What she dreamed of was unimportant and too scattered to make logical sense from, but she did finally return from her aimless musings sometime around the point when the basic outline of the precipitating events that brought them there were given to them.

A number of people had gone missing during an archaeological dig. And they were told, basically, not to break anything down there. Makes sense, those were potentially the precious remains of a past long lost; our only remaining clues to lost knowledge. Reminded her of the sub-levels of her old Kage tower; which no one ever bothered to take the mission to clean up. Regardless, her abilities should be good at moving any debris without causing excessive problems.

[Y]

It seemed that Cincinnatus was indeed happy at the moment, but the signs of stress were certainly there. He stroked his thigh as he listened to the replies of the students, nodding carefully. His eyes would close for a second, as the Former Hokage spoke to him. But they would open up again, to pay attention to the words, and then go out of a focus for a brief second as the Latin was spoken. He would then turn to the next speaker, and in turn listen to what all had to say. "Rident Stolidi Verba Latina." He would say in that ancient tongue.

"I have the utmost confidence in you. I am surprised to recognize the name of the Former Hokage. He, of all of you must understand the true significance of the Chakra Empire which existed before us. When you all return, I was have you all give me written accounts of roughly what happened, so we can piece together what went on in this place. Festina lente, festina lente. I give you leave to go. The site is 5 miles north of the city limits of Tanzaku Gai. From there, you will find the remnants of an Ancient Latin road which will lead directly to the dig site."  The man would manage a smile, as he stroked his left hip, not sexually, but almost painfully, and slid the dictionary back to its place in the table. He seemed very interested in what was going on, but he had a slight grimace on his face. His happiness only seemed to go so deep. "How I wish I could be going with you." He would say finally, as he sunk back into his chair, watching the squad he hired advance towards their definition, and out of his comfortable office.

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Nira:
All the chakra information gathered is identical. All the feelings shown in this post can be considerable to be genuine for the purposes of your Soul Sight techniques.

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OOC:
Post your exits, and I'll post an opening post for the next thread where this will take place. I will be inactive for a little over 48 hours starting Friday, so if my posting order falls right at that time I will be a little late.

[Tieren]

Solus: +5 TP, +8 SP, 10/125 SP

narutoforumrp.proboards.com/thread/103073/skill-training-rolls?page=43&scrollTo=948827

[Solus]

SPOILER: Click to show

Learning:

Sense Motive
Rank: "E"
Skill: Skill
Effect: User is skilled at detecting falsehoods and true intentions.
Special: ---
Drawback: ---
Description: A successful check lets the user avoid from being bluffed or lied to (see the Acting Skill). The user can also use this skill to determine when "something is up" (that is, something odd is going on) or access someone's trustworthiness.
Hunch: This use of the skill involves making a gut assessment of the social situation. The user can get the feeling from another's behavior that something is wrong, such as when they are talking to an imposter. Alternatively, the user can get the feeling that someone is trustworthy. Very Difficult Difficulty.
Sense Enchantment: User can tell that someone's behavior is being influenced by an Enchantment effect even if that person is not aware of it. The usual check is Very Difficult, but if the target is dominated, the check is Difficult because of the limited range of the target's activities.
Discern Secret Message: The user may use Sense Motive to detect a hidden message transmitted by Acting. In this case the Check is opposed by the Acting check. For each piece of information relating to the message the user is missing takes a -10 penalty to the check. If the success is by 20 or less, the user knows that something hidden is being communicated, but cannot learn anything specific. If the check is beaten by 25 or more, the user intercepts and understands the message. If the check is failed by 20 or less, the user does not detect anything. If the fail is by 25 or more, they might infer false information.

Cannot roll multiple times except for each Acting check made against the user. Each time learned user gets 1 die roll to increase the skill.
Limit: ---

2 times learned.
10 skill points at time of learning

+1 per roll due to Con-Artist trait

S

ince everyone was behind him Gosei could not see what was going on there in great detail or observe the reactions of the others properly. Vi spoke up. Or was it Tarah? No, listening closer it was revealed to be Vi after all proclaiming her historical knowledge. Not being able to see the girls the Godaime Hokage for the first time realized how much the voices of the two girls were alike. Mainly, the most difference came from the sterner intonation of Vi’s voice. Under her breath the Kazeraikou could hear Nieve whisper a word of admiration, after proclaiming to know some world history. It seemed that together the three of them knew practically all history necessary for this mission.

Clearly, the headmaster knew Latin too, speaking words that were all too true. The man kept stroking his hip, it was a motion that he had done far too often. Was it hurting? It would at least explain why the man felt the continuous need to touch it. Or maybe it was just very itchy? No, then he would be scratching it, right? Also, heat from the hand would only stimulate the nerves, increasing possible pain. Unless the man was exerting pressure, though it could not be much with the motion he made. A nervous tick perhaps? It was the most likely of all options.

A smile curled around Gosei’s lips when the man dropped the details of Gosei’s former position. Many had probably suspected, all of them now knew for sure. "A name I shall use to further our cause, if necessary." The Medic replied, emphasizing the last part of that line. If none knew his name, at least the alias connected to the title, The Dragon of Konoha, would be known around the world. Under that alias he had cleared up pirates in Yuki no Kuni, won a broadcasted tournament in Kaze no Kuni and repressed rebellions in Hi no Kuni itself.

"Homo diserte sum, non rido." Gosei replied, Latin in response to Latin. "Tempus fugit, quid habes, quid mihi opponas? Vale!" He turned around to face the others. ”We know the way, time to search those ruins and find out what is keeping the teams there.” The Godaime Hokage said, leaving any possible state of those teams in the middle. He would give a short bow to the headmaster, not bowing any further than his position relative to the other demanded.

The way outside was simple, it was the way he had followed to get to this but then in reverse. Outside he would wait until the last shinobi had gathered around him, using the universal hand gesture for ‘wait’ until everyone was present. Once everyone had made it outside he would beckon as he set his own feet in motion on the road to the ruins, signalling not only the group, but also his huge and still invisible arachnid to follow. ”Okay, let’s go. I want to see what is going on there with my own eyes.”

~Exit

SPOILER: Click to show

I don’t know if we are allowed to use non-english without a translation so here it is just to be sure:

G: I Speak Latin. I am an expert/educated.

Cin: (Only^red) Fools laugh at Latin words.

Haste slowly (Festina Lente)

G: I am a man of eloquence, I don’t laugh. Time flies, what do you have to object me? Goodbye!

[try4]

Beside me, Vi spoke up, saying that she too held some knowledge of history. From my peripheral, I looked at the young girl and wondered how one her age possessed knowledge of ancient history.. The kunoichi Nieve also had some insight in the matter and spoke up. Me and Akiko were the only two to have remained silent before the elder Cincinnatus spoke out.

Did he just say that Gosei had been the former Hokage? This piece of information caused me to inwardly scry this man and further gauge his shinobi ranking. Had he been stronger than the current Amekage? I kept my cool disposition amongst the gathered persons, yet my mind had been racing with answers. Perhaps he knew of the origins of this fan I possessed... as he and the professor exchanged more foreign words, I thought about asking him when I got the proper chance. Cincinnatus informed us further of the mission and wherein lay the dig site. In this turn of events, he seemed to have gotten excited, but his age prohibited him from expressing so wholly. He returned to his seat as he wished to venture with us to this once Chakra Empire. I would make sure to keep a keen eye out for anything that the others may miss while we explored the area, as to hopefully increase my chances of standing out against the older ninja present.

As Gosei turned to continue to lead the group of six, I followed him back outside on to the campus ground. More than anything, now, that had been on my mind, was asking this man if he knew anything about this small fan I possessed. It seemed that every move I made since I had left Shimo Kuni was slowly guiding me towards the answers concerning my past.

SPOILER: Click to show

-- exit

[Nira]

Tarah followed Gosei without question. Being more at ease with the situation now that some intelligence was gathered, the young teen performed no other extraordinary research. There was no threat to be found in the university, and the request seemed genuine. They were here to make money.

She was, at least.

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Vi was pleased to know that the man's aura matched his speech. It was rather charming. She always liked the company of truthful voices. Perhaps they could meet and converse when the situation had been properly dealt with.

Ah, can't keep the rest of the group waiting, though. A slow teammate can be a nuisance.

---

Still keeping to themselves, the soul sisters accompanied the group to the edge of the campus grounds.

"Be mindful of visual illusions, of course," Vi added after Gosei's pronouncement.


<Exit>

[Captain M]

Kijo no Shimo, possible future archaeologist?

The mention that Gosei was both a former Hokage and the Dragon of Konoha made Nieve stop in her tracks for a long moment. She had heard of the Dragon, mostly about what he had done in her land concerning a band of pirates. The scientist had never known that hero was also Gosei, man in the Yuki bingo book and Dragon of Konoha. She would have wanted to give Gosei some more thought, but Cincinnatus continued speaking. The scholar rubbing his thigh did not go unnoticed by Nieve. Perhaps she would take a look at it once they had returned from the mission. She could relieve his pain and probably heal the injury he had sustain, perhaps he had the gout? When he mentioned taking notes, her face lit up completely. "Oh I will take the most complete notes you have ever seen Professor." She told him with a smile. She tapped the side of her head with her finger, letting the man know that her brain would be enough to record all information she would come upon due to her eidetic memory.

She of course recorded all the information that revolved around the location of the ruins. Nieve nodded toward Cincinnatus. Gosei and the two twins walked out, with the Rain shinobi as well. This left Nieve and Akiko as the last ones in the office. The blue haired medic walked by Akiko and smiled. "I guess that means you have our backs." She said simply before hurrying down the staircase and heading out of the university.

Once all were assembled it was time to move out.

[EXIT]

[Corvus]

Akiko just nodded and followed everyone else, apparently being one of the less educated people there; at least on the topics required for the mission at hand. What piqued her interest was the revilation of Gosei's identity; a former Hokage. THAT was why his name sounded familiar to her. Who would have guessed that there were two retired Kage responding to this accident? For the time being, though, perhaps Akiko should refrain from revealing her full identity. She hadn't met anyone here before, and it might be fun to see how long she can go before she has to reveal the truth about her...well, some of it.

Akiko looked up at the snow shinobi as the latter spoke to her, prompting the blond to reply, "You can count on me, Onee-chan." She said nothing else as she followed everyone out of the building and prepared to walk to the ruins, Akiko did her best to play the roll of a fourteen year old girl, no more than a genin, despite her status as both a Chunin and also a retired Mizukage. And her abilities, between her Sand and Wind releases, as well as her medical and soulcaster techniques, should be quite useful for exploration and rescue. Even moreso with her doujutsu, which most likely exceeded the abilities of everyone else here.


[EXIT]

[Captain M]

OOC:
Counting IC posts of Nieve for her Seal, 5 in this thread.

[Draven]

Solus: +5tp Sense Motive 10-20sp

[Solus]

~Enter

F

inally they were where they had started. Not wasting any time Gosei would move to the room where they had received their mission and knock on the door, just prior to merely waltzing inside half a second after announcing his presence. "We have returned. We have found your archaeologists..."

[Nira]

Tarah followed right behind Gosei as they entered the university again. It felt funny this second time around. They had left earlier with a large group, and returned with the same amount of people, yet the people were mostly different.

Well, those different people were probably still outside, so it wasn't as obvious. The knowledge alone was enough for the odd feeling.

Since they were indoors, the vocal music no longer went on. Tanni hummed to herself as they strolled down the hall. She fell silent when Gosei entered the room and announced the result of the adventure.

[Y]

The few arrived, and, much to the dismay of the disgruntled gatekeeper, charged all the way to the office. The archaelogits scattered to somewhere in the university with their things, after signing in properly with the man who kept the charts of comings and goings. When Gosei and Tarah/Tanni/Vi arrived in the office, Cincinatus greeted them merrily. It was a fast expedition, that was for sure. "Ah, Lord Hokage. You have returned. And with success? How wonderful! If you would just recount what happened, I have your payment readied."

[Solus]

R

eleasing a strained sigh Gosei would start to recount the entire story from the start till the end, leaving no detail out. Every so often he would fall silent and allow for Tarah to fill in a part of the story that was better told from her point of view. About fifteen minutes later everything was done and recounted for, leaving the Godaime to end the story with "And then we escorted everyone back here with the goods. That more or less sums it up. The site should never be visited again. And something should be put in place to prevent anyone from entering there again. But that is not our concern."

[Nira]

There wasn't much more that needed to be added after the story was told. Tarah was unable to think of any suggestions for protectors at the moment.