Battle Moderator Requirements.

[Umehara]

I think it would be a productive idea to tone back the requirement of having a Battle Moderator any time a fight (real fight) is about to occur. They were more necessary a while back because of all the hustle and bustle of threads and people who were a bit..."zealous and hasty" in their attitudes, but I believe we've reached a smooth sail and can move forward with the Honor System among roleplayers.

As it stands, Battle Moderators take quite a while to appear or pick up threads (Understandably so - Life before site and staff duties are of higher priority). Combine this with the fact that we cannot bump a thread until five days later, and we have no potential for threads to be battle-oriented. This is a considerable rain on a roleplayer's parade, and discourages antagonists from doing what they do best.

I believe that contenders should be left to their own devices unless they can't come to an agreement. Only at that point should it be a requirement that they post in the Battle Moderator thread. Alternatively, I believe that it would be a nice alteration that roleplayers can continue and engage in combat after requesting a Battle Moderator in the thread. That way, they can continue and have a Battle Moderator step in at any point to rectify a situation that may have gone on in the time between the request and the fight.

I think it'd offer a nice increase and motivation to train and get into some plot-oriented squabbles, yeah? People still have the ability to deny entry to others in their threads, so no tomfoolery on that end.

Thoughts?

[|Ayame Unbound|]

Quick reply since I'm at work. The main problem I see with this is if something gets messed up and neither party sees it but the BM does it could totally change what's happening even though they've posted multiple times since then. Know what I mean?

[Captain M]

I imagine the Battle Mod would only be used to deal with the disagreement Ayame, not what happened previous to it. So it's honor system until something happens that the two fighters simply can not agree upon, then a BM is called upon to give his unbiased verdict.

[👺 Usiel]

A Battle moderator does not have to post after every post. Just notify a Battle moderator, have them go over it, and they will post if there is something wrong. That's how it's supposed to work.

[Deleted]

I think this is a good idea. When you have to wait for somebody to overview every fight even if it is minor thing such as sparing it really is a killer of motivation, which makes it difficult to maintain interest in a plotline.

Since we are on the topic of BM rulings, I also think that users of genjutsu should be able to make their own rolls in an OOC thread. Having to wait for a BM to roll a dice each time somebody uses a genjutsu would be tedious I can imagine. It's also possible to quote the post that a die roll has taken place to see if the dice range was legitimate, so as long as the post has not been edited it can count as a legitimate roll. The preview post thing doesn't work anymore as far as I know.

Anyway I support this idea and would like to see it implemented on site.

[Deleted]

except im pretty sure there's a way you can cheat rolls that still functions in v5

so that would be no bueno

[Umehara]

Jul 25, 2014 18:28:25 GMT -7 👺 Usiel said:

A Battle moderator does not have to post after every post. Just notify a Battle moderator, have them go over it, and they will post if there is something wrong. That's how it's supposed to work.

I was under the impression that two RPers couldn't even begin the battle until a Battle Moderator posted in the thread saying "I'll be overseeing this battle. Please continue."

- Person A enters
- Person B enters
- Person A declares an attack/intent to attack
- Someone goes to get a Battle Moderator-
- Battle Moderator has to post accepting/acknowledging the fight. Battle cannot commence until this happens.-
- Fight continues -

If that's not the case, then I apologize about the misunderstanding and have no further questions and/or suggestions. That was the only part about having a Battle Moderator that I thought was limiting the flow of a thread. Everything else is golden. If two people can at least notify the BM that a battle is going to take place, have the fight without needing the BM to post in the thread first going "I'll be overseeing this battle", and have them review it after the fight's over? Cool.

That would also bring up Ayame's point. I see what you mean. So in that regard, how about making it so that a Battle Moderator has to review the fight before a death/victory can be confirmed. It allows the RPers to keep going, it allows the BM to post when they feel it necessary, and it allows all parties to agree that the fight was conducted without error/correction.

[Deleted]

But lets say the fight continues 2 pages long of just back to back brawling and Person A wins? Battle moderator comes in and sees that there was something wrong in the first 4-5 posts? Would that not mean that all of the posts after the problematic posts be nulled and voided which would only waste the time and effort that the rpers have to go through?
Thats of course assuming that the BM doesn't check the thread daily and regularly to make sure nothing goes wrong

[Umehara]

I would imagine that a Battle Moderator would pay enough attention to a battle so as not to have to micromanage it. Posts also tend not to be that frequent. Combine that with the fact that RPers usually discuss/talk about any issues or concerns they may already have before a BM posts, and I think that's more than enough time for a thread not to get out of hand.

We're all competent enough to stay consistent with the use of jutsu. The Honor System plays a huge role on a lot of what goes on here, so there's no need to be that critical of battles. If that were the case, it'd be pointless to fight and/or spar to begin with. I think it's safe to say that we can give our RPers more credit than that.

[|Ayame Unbound|]

Generally it is just on hold until a BM accepts the thread. Then it's their responsibility to keep up with it and perform rolls as needed. Just having one to wait for the BM to claim the thread shouldn't be too much of an issue. Furthermore if a BM isn't picking up the thread you can contact me or the rest of head staff. We can notify the BMs if needed.

[Captain M]

Atsu's suggestion is indeed to forgo the initial acceptance of the Battle Moderators to begin a battle. Instead to have Battle Moderators called up only when there is a disagreement.

[Umehara]

I wasn't aware that we could PM Head Staff in regards to a BM picking up a thread due to the Battle Bump requiring that five days has passed. If that be the case, then I'll admit that I didn't PM any Head Staff when my thread wasn't picked up for days. I'd just bump the thread and wait longer. I'll try that method and see if it's more effective. My only concern is that Head Staff will be absent when RPers want a battle thread picked up. There are no grounds for that to be an immediate concern, though, so that's neither here nor there.

My final question is if it would be possible for the Battle Bump of five days to get lowered to somewhere around two or three days. I think that would also ensure that people's threads aren't falling by the wayside if Head Staff is busy or if they may open a PM but it slip their mind to reply or act on it. (( I speak from personal experience. Lol. ))

I'll give this a while and see how effective it is. May revisit this idea if we can increase productivity. Until then, feel free to lock this up after the last inquiry has been answered. Thanks.

EDIT: This is correct, M. But if Staff stays on top of things, then I see no reason not to give it a try. I'll PM someone in addition to the BM thread when need be. If it works out, then I have no concerns. Otherwise, I'll bring this up later if it effects everyone like it was.

[|Ayame Unbound|]

Yeah I mean if you have to battle bump I have no problem with someone PMing me to remind the BMs. I'll admit my PMs get lost sometimes especially with the mobile proboards messing up my PMs >>

As for battle bump time that'd be Heeros call so well need him on that front.