Unwarranted Cbox Ban.

[Deleted]

Name: lumenlatonesh
Age: Over 18
Gender: Male
Incident Link: (No links as it was a Cbox related incident)
Complaint:

Type: Mistreatment

Quotes adjusted to read top to bottom unlike the Cbox normally does.

31/01/15 12:40
Katsugan: Also I personally kinda hate these god moddy style exams we have...

31/01/15 12:41
Usiel -Mobile-: godmoddy?

31/01/15 12:41
Kyogi: god moddy style?

31/01/15 12:41
Katsugan: "Whether you're D or S rank, whether you're crazy prepared for everything or dont give a shit, we got the way to end your ass, so shut up and roll with the story or I'll smite you"

31/01/15 12:41
Kyogi: When did that get said? >_>

31/01/15 12:41
Kyogi: Because of the xray vertigo or something lol

31/01/15 12:41
Katsugan: Never but that is the general way in which the exams are ran.

31/01/15 12:42
Usiel -Mobile-: when was that implied with these exams

31/01/15 12:42
Katsugan: Not just these exams, all exams seem like that.

31/01/15 12:42
Usiel -Mobile-: it's but in katsugans place he's just making an ass out of himself

31/01/15 12:42
Katsugan: Our exams are soooo different from the shown exam in the manga.

31/01/15 12:42
Usiel -Mobile-: you have no idea

31/01/15 12:42
Usiel -Mobile-: what was already planned

31/01/15 12:42
Kyogi: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

31/01/15 12:43
Usiel -Mobile-: so you can't assume

31/01/15 12:43
Kyogi: NFRP is different from canon naruto manga?

31/01/15 12:43
Kyogi: Since when

31/01/15 12:43
Kyogi: Call the media get the president on the line

31/01/15 12:43
Katsugan: I can almost taste the sarcasm

31/01/15 12:43
Usiel -Mobile-: so you want to take a written exam first?

31/01/15 12:43
Katsugan: And it tastes like pathetic not wanting to listen to a point...

31/01/15 12:44
Usiel -Mobile-: -sighs-

31/01/15 12:44
Usiel -Mobile-: you know what

31/01/15 12:44
Usiel -Mobile-: not today

31/01/15 12:44
Usiel -Mobile-: I'm bout going to sit here

31/01/15 12:44
Usiel -Mobile-: and let you bitch about this

31/01/15 12:46
Usiel -Mobile-: see you next week katsu

There is no stated rule against stating one's opinion in the Cbox. I began to state my opinion on something, got told I was making an ass of myself, replied in kind to that response, and was banned. Pretty obvious mistreatment. Usiel didn't even give me a warning to stop or change the subject, he went straight to the ban. I obey the rules here at NFRP as best I can, I'd prefer to be banned only when I actually do break a rule, thanks.

Solution: Unban me from the Cbox.

[|Ayame Unbound|]

If this were a single incident I would back you but you have a history of going in the box and being generally moody and pushing others buttons over and over. We only allow people to toe that line for so long. Your attitude in the box can in general be very negative and you've simply pushed people's buttons too many times. The ban will remain.

[Natsy]

Just throwing my 2c in here, so don’t want to be told to gtfo. As a mod, I think I have a say or to at least express how I feel toward the situation.

Anyway..

Honestly this is actually the primary reason why I don’t really nose around in the box. People bitch and hum and it’s as old as time and ultimately, pointless. But I actually do have to disagree with this ban overall.
Kats is entitled to his opinion and (although I may not agree with him on it, I think the exams are fair; they’re designed to test a member’s abilities and the examiner is doing a pretty good job so far) really should not have been banned for it. In all honesty, if I had been reading this at the time I would have posted asking Kats to simply change the subject before an argument stated. And if he didn't, well then I would have banned him. But Heero went right in there (from the looks of the logs) and banned him without all that much warning. No offense, but that is mistreatment regardless of how people feel about Kat’s attitude.

I feel that Kats deserved to at least be told to drop it, or whatever. Heck, let him vent and then move on. Venting is good for people. But I don’t think this warrants a ban at all. I like Kats, he's my nuzzle buddy! But this is me speaking as a staff member, and not as Katsu’s friend.

As I said, simple 2c on my behalf, take it or leave it.

[Deleted]

"People's" buttons? You mean Usiel's buttons, certainly. There are exactly two people in the cbox that I don't get along well with. Usiel, and Zetsumei. Everyone else? Normal conversation relationship. Talk a lot, debate a bit, lots of dirty jokes. Zetsumei and I just think too differently. We tend to avoid just talking to each other and that works fine for us for the most part.

I'm sure Usiel and I would do the same except for the fact that he's site admin. You got an idea you want to see is acceptable? Gotta talk to Usiel, because talking to anyone else on the idea is pointless if Usiel doesn't like it. Don't like something that is going on on site? Gotta talk to Usiel about it, because again he's pretty much the only one who gets final say on these kind of things. Anything you've got to say to try and improve the site has got to go through Usiel. So it's not like I can stop talking to the guy.

I voice my opinions, I say things like, "I think this is wrong and this is what I'd do to fix it". I suggest ideas all the time. Usiel for some reason seems to think these are personal attacks on him, or something. I'm not quite sure why he gets so angry whenever I suggest something, or say that something is wrong. I mean the other day he was wondering why people have such a hard time reading the rules, pertaining to character creation specifically I believe, and I told him that he wrote things in a manner that might not be easily understood by certain people. I got told to "fuck off" for my trouble.

When I do get into debates/arguments with people, including Usiel, I'm almost never the one to start flinging profanity first, and if one of the staff members come in and say to stop talking about it, I do. Oh I definitely grumble about it, but it's never ever ever EVER gotten to the point that anyone threatened to ban me from the cbox. I don't even remember getting a "verbal" warning of that...

...Until Usiel just up and bans me without any warning or anything besides the equivalent of a "I don't want to see your face" comment. This IS a single incident, Ayame. I've never been banned before, and I've never even gotten a verbal warning of being banned. This is the first time I've been Cbox banned, and it is quite frankly because Usiel just doesn't want to talk to me. So rather than simply leaving the Cbox for a little bit, maybe go grab a sandwich or read a manga, he bans me. How am I in the wrong here?


EDIT: Thanks for your support Natsumi. Didn't see your post until I had already posted so sorry if I repeat anything Natsumi had already said.

[👺 Usiel]

You have every right to voice your opinions. There is a thing called free speech, you are not being arrested from it. You said what you wanted, I saw it as a minor flame, and instigation. No warning needed since you are an older member. You have the right to express your opinion and I have the right to deny you service of using the Cbox. We both expressed our rights. Ban stays.

[|Ayame Unbound|]

And if you want to discuss opinions or dislike of something the Cbox is not the proper medium for this. The CBox is for chatting, plotting, general horsing around. Just as the Cbox is not for support, is not the place to instigate debates or changes.

[|Ayame Unbound|]