Lightning Jutsu clarification (head mods please chip in too)

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Support Issue: Combat
The Issue: Howdy gang. I've asked this question before and got an answer already. But I'm posting this for clarification as well as to have a log on this. Back when I was trying to come up with a way to make a super death laser using lighting mastery-


Raitoningu Sanmai
Rank: A Rank
Skill: Nin
Effect: User is able to absorb a lightning attack for a brief moment while using it against an opponent win increased power.
Special: None
Drawback: User is incapable of performing more then eight times a day or else user falls dieing by a heart attack.
Description: The user's body's chakra is ready at anytime the user need it to. When hit by any lightning the user is able to absorb the lightning as their own for chakra. When the user is hit by any form of lightning (Includes Jutsu or Natural) the user is able to absorb the lightning as their own, they can transfer the lightning they absorb into more chakra for them or may have the option to combine that with a jutsu they have that have the same principles of what they absorb to increase the strength of the rank. By doing this the user is unharmed by any damage that it was suppose to be done to them when they where hit with the lightning.
Limit: Lightning Release Skill (Raiton no Jutsu), Must have 500 TP in Raiton no Jutsu. Once you obtain 500 TP in Raiton no Jutsu, this is automatically learned

I tried to use a technique called thunderstorm ravens. The idea was that I would train the jutsu an annoying amount it times to shoot off a flock of 100 lightning ravens. But using a few lightning clones I would have the clones target me. I would use the mastery to take the incoming ap from the 100 birds and turn it into power for a more powerful Jutsu. That is when I was informed by staff that it wouldn't work that way. Because each bird would use a charge as each bird does its own damage. Thus each bird was its own damage source.

Tech for reference :

Raiton – Raiu Karasu (Thunderstorm Raven)
Rank: "C", "B"
Skill: NinJutsu
Effect: User creates birds out of Lightning to shoot at opponents.
Special: "Handseals" - Holds "Bird Handseal"
Drawback: ---
Description: User performs needed handseals and holds the "Bird" Handseal. User creates 5 small birds with "Good" Flight control and shoots them at the opponent. Duration of this technique is as long as the user can hold the "Bird" Handseal. Each bird does 8 Armour Points of Electrical Damage. Range of this technique is 30 meters plus 15 meters per Class Level. Each bird is made from pure lightning, discharging a shock of electricity when striking an object. Each bird has a 2-foot wingspan. User may learn this technique multiple times. Each time learned the user may create an additional 5 small birds per performing of the technique. When the user can create 50 Birds the difficulty of the technique increases to "B" Rank and the damage per bird increases to 10 Armour Points Electrical Damage. User may learn this technique until they can create 100 birds. Technique uses an additional "C" Rank amount of Chakra per 25 Birds.
Limit: Must have Lightning Release.

So I asked if similar redirection methods worked like that. Specifically lighting redirection Jutsu.



Ridairekuto
Rank: "C", "B", "A", "S" Rank
Skill: Nin
Effect: When the user is hit by any form of lightning (Includes jutsu's or natural) the user is able to make the lightning go threw their body and by channeling their chakra is able to redirect the lightning threw their hand anywhere they wish but must be a quick action.
Special: None
Drawback: If used to 5 times in a row the user's hand's start to get electrical burns making it impossible for the use to close their hand.
Description: When the user knows that they are about to be hit by lightning they start to channel their chakra threw their body to impress the impact, when they are hit the chakra then quickly lead's the lightning their the open channel way then made to send it out threw their hand. Depending on the rank of the technique means the rank that the user may deflect and redirect. When the user learns the "C" Rank they are capable of redirecting "C" Rank techniques. When the user learns the "B" Rank they are capable of redirecting "B" Rank techniques. This continues on till "S" Rank.
Limit: Lightning Release Skill (Raiton no Jutsu)



I was told the wording was really important here. That in the effect was t says "when the user is hit." Meant that that techniques that had multiple projectiles would require the tech to be recast in order to cause redirection. That made sense to me but who knows I might be wrong here.

So basically what I want to know exactly. Is if someone casts 100 lighting birds at me. Can I redirect 100 lightning birds only using the lighting redirection tech once or the lightning mastery once?

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anyways. Thanks for reviewing this when you have time.

[The Bearer of Bad News]

Hrm....to be perfectly honest with you, I can't really tell. Multistrike techniques's interactions with defenses of that nature are tricky, especially considering the varying schools of thought on how their damage is applied in the first place.

I think this is going to require input from a specialist. Maybe Nira?

[Titan of Stone]

Id say it depends on the technique in question, given that thunderstorm raven says each raven is its own damage source its a one per raven thing but say something like... the ribbon raiton technique (creates splitting bolts for each rain drop) if youre hit by multiple bolts they fall under the one source of damage

[Nira]

Thunderstorm Raven

Pro: The birds each count as separate lightning attacks. Redirection and absorption quickly get overwhelmed and overpowered. This is one of the exceptions to the rule that lightning masters counter other lightning masters.

Con: The birds each count as separate lightning attacks. Each individual bird is weak and bounces harmlessly off most basic damage reductions. People who pick up a popular trait, barrier, or supplementary technique can ignore the technique.

Contrary: If a skill, technique, or ability of some sort is used to concentrate the damage of all the birds, they'd count as one big technique that can actually bypass basic damage reduction, but they also become easier to absorb or redirect.

[Ryutatsu "Sakurai Sword"]

Basically it's like Sakurai techniques then. Individually squat but can be combined to be bigger if RPed right.

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It's what I thought.

Thanks!

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