Chidori vs Rasengan

[Skulking Shinzu]

I don't know if things have already changed without my knowledge (or lack of attention), but as things stand Chidori is pretty much the go-to Epic because it's in the Lightning Index, which means it can be affected by Jutsu Enhancements. Naturally, this makes it far superior.

I was wondering if some consideration could be put in to make Rasengan a part of Shape Transformation specialist so that it can be effected by Jutsu Enhancements (or just leaving it as it is but explicitly stating it can be effected by Jutsu Enhancements). If I remember right, I believe Rasengan deals Force damage anyway and is a pure Chakra technique, so it goes hand in hand with Shape Transformation and falls into the category of stuff that should be modifiable with Jutsu Enhancements.

This was suggested a year ago by Abumi, but hoping to put forward a case for it again seeing how a lot of old content is being updated to make it more relevant to the newer stuff.

[Starnaess]

I second this. A jutsu such as rasengan deserves to be on par with its "brother" from the naruto world. Since its a powerful jutsu ,being already epic already fulfills the rarity side of it - and with the addition of jutsu enhancents it would be worthy of being called an EPIC reward.

[Madame Loki]

You guys serious? Rasengan is already part of shape transformation specislist. You master shape and learn force lore. Rasengan, and tenkai become part of shape transformation. And even without being part of shape, Rasegan is superior to chidori.

[Skulking Shinzu]

Hm. That's where I'm confused. Ruling a year ago was that Rasengan can't be used with Jutsu Enhancements. If it's a part of Shape Transformation anyway, shouldn't the two be compatible?

[Madame Loki]

Once you learn Force Lore, it becomes part of Shape transformation, and can be used with Jutsu Enhancement. That has been said since Shape Transformation first came out.

[Skulking Shinzu]

Oh right, entirely forgot Force Lore will now effect Rasengan. This can be locked away and forgotten about then.

Edit: Could be completely wrong here, but I remember now the conversation that was had a year ago was that Rasengan is not a part of Shape Transformation - which is what caused this same topic back then. Don't want to mention any names because it's been a while and my facts could have become blurry since then. I know Rasengan is briefly mentioned in Shape Transformation's description and again in Force Lore, but just want to confirm we are all comfortable with saying Rasengan is a part of Shape Specialist (by all I mean Heero ).

[Shallistera]

Going to go into controversy here a bit since I am not entirely sure that is true. Why?Because this support thread wasn't entirely cleared.

[Deleted]

So for starters.

Rasengan is absolutely better in almost every conceivable way. It's force and as Loki said can be used with jutsu enhancements.

It can be trained multiple times so it doesn't have a cap on damage.

It (unlike chidori) doesn't have to overcome energy resistances.


Chidori is easily the weakest in terms of damage epic we have. You could cast 12 Kirin's at me without armor and do no damage to me.

[Skulking Shinzu]

I pretty much agree if the statement about Rasengan being compatible with Jutsu Enhancements is true. Like I said, the whole reason I'm paranoid is because the staff ruling a year ago was that they are not compatible. Can't remember who said that though, so don't want to falsely call anyone out. It was a staffer though.

Loki is probably right, but just want this here as a marker so no one says "Shinz I told you a year ago you can't do that."