Moon vs. Snow (100 TP)

[Moon]

It was any type of environment his opponent wanted.  It was the time of day his opponent wished.  He stood whatever distance away from his opponent that the man desired.  He had no gear other than basic clothes, and no weapons other than his bare hands, and a copy of whatever weapon his opponent carried, in the same place his opponent would carry it.  He would have access to whatever techniques his opponent chose, and wait until catching sight of him to act.

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Shiki walked into the room. It was a 50x50 meter platform of stone. They were completely encapsulated in the arena. Shiki carried a single Katana in his right hand roughly 35 inches long. The hilt roughly a 'hand and a half sword', where the user could swing with one hand but also wield the weapon with two hands if they chose to. Dressed in nothing but a simple Gee with baggy pants to hide his feet and make seeing his footwork a little bit more difficult. Aside from that the monster hunter was weaponless. Shiki was roughly 10 meters away from his opponent, facing him and waiting for his opponents actions. 


OOC: 

Aight brochaco. I didn't use any specs. Lets say 6 movements a piece. No genjutsu plz. 

[Moon]

He saw his opponent, 10m away on a stone floor in a 50m wide room, completely enclosed, apart from the world. He held a strange field sword in his right hand just like the white haired stranger, and switched instantly to his left hand, reversing his grip in the process. The sword's blade now pointed behind him, and he let it drag along the ground, sharp side up, scoring gently across the stone floor as he began walking swiftly towards his opponent. His eyes stared blankly at the man's responses without blinking,


He picked up speed at the 5m mark, and if uninterrupted would tighten his grip as he closed down to 2m, shifting to his right before coming within their mutual striking range, unarmed right hand rising to chest height, knees slightly bent, left foot pivoting with the toe bent to focus the weight behind his left shoulder forwards, despite his lower extremities now prepared for the true maneuver.

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Shiki watched his opponent start to close the distance towards him. Carefully watching where his opponent was moving his blade. While his own sword was in his right hand he noticed his opponent had switched his sword arm. (1) As his opponent moved his sword over to his left hand Shiki started moving at a 45 degree slant matching his opponents speed while moving to his(Shiki's)left, Shiki would quickly slant inwards just as his opponent was picking up his speed as well. This would put his opponents sword on the outside of their stand off and his on the inside in a more favorable striking position.

(2)This closing of the distance was not something Shiki took lightly. Shiki listened for every telling sign of his opponents movements. Listening to the sounds of his footsteps and familiarizing himself with them. He used time closing in on his opponent to ready himself to make a last second dodge if the need presented itself. Otherwise he would carry forwards without any hesitation on his next move as his opponent would complete his next instep. 

(3)As the planting of his opponents instep was being preformed. With his sword held in front of him with both hands, his right foot and right hand leading the fluid movement, Shiki just brought himself into striking distance would swing at the inside of his opponents instep and upwards along his body and inner thigh. As the blade was being arced Shiki would keep his sword arm 4 inches retracted towards his body while twisting the blade as he cut inwards into his opponents lower guard. Keeping the blade beveled and canted with the hilt towards Shiki's face while keeping his knee's bent and his stance limber he made his cut. While the slash itself would appear to be a cursory attempt to outmaneuver, Shiki was using the priority of his swords location for the cut. 

[Moon]

The 45 degree slant at which his opponent moved was noted; placing his sword on the outside and his foe's blade on the inside, acted even more favorably for his plan and saved him an extra step.

Having switched his blade to the left hand, his unimpeded travel within their mutual striking range was likewise performed with his left foot. As he pivoted while making the step itself, and his opponents right hand and foot led his own assault in the same instance, an upwards swing at the inside of his instep would be difficult to avoid for another.

It would not, however, be difficult to step into.

Continuing his clockwise pivot, his previous adjustment of weight to push his left shoulder forward was intentional, as were the bending of his knees, and the raising of his right hand; he made a motion somewhat similar to climbing, raising his left leg into the slash as the enemy's blade rushed upwards, but slanting the weight of the rest of his leg to deflect the rest of his body away from it. The reversed grip on the blade, its sharp side up, was also to aid in the true maneuver; only a curve of the wrist was necessary to bring the sharp edge forwards once that arm was raised. He'd been fully prepared, watching for the strike that came - and as his own foot was being cut off, while his enemy's blade was obviously too busy to do anything else - his raised right hand had gripped the hilt of his blade as well, as the left tensed up, and he performed a partially diagonal slash that would tear through the man's throat, and remove him of his head in the same instant. As he'd been fully committed to the mutual strike; so long as he felt the touch of blade, his success was guaranteed.

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The four inches of extension and the cautious approach Shiki made were not wasted it would seem. As his opponent literally threw himself on his blade Shiki recognized the gambit being performed. The inverted carry of his blade suddenly made more sense. Shiki carried forwards with his sword swing but stepped behind himself with his rearmost leg. As he did he would pivot on his front foot changing the angle of his cut. retracting another 5 inches  would allow him to redirect the slant of the blade as well. Shiki's sword still in motion with a deviated course would work in his next gambit but it would take the reach of his attack down. Doing this would ensure his opponent would be unable to throw his legs onto the blade itself but still let his upward swing carry through. 

However this time with its new deviated course it would be brought up past the initial height originally aimed for. But this time it would be aimed for the opponents incoming sword arm. Keeping his blades cant he would be able to keep his blade in a defensive position. Even if the blade itself didn't bite into the swordsman's arm it would at the very least put itself in the position to block the incoming sword swing. It was a fantastic opening move that his opponent used. He would absolutely need to remember this one. 

[Moon]

His opponent seemed to read the intention of his maneuver, but remained unaware of its more basic purpose. With his leg already raised; he could see his opponent take a step back, and in that same moment, would simply bring his own foot down swiftly and heavily with the majority of his weight, onto the excess fabric of the baggy pants to hide his feet that the enemy wore. Having done so as his opponent was taking his step back, ensured that his immobile forwardmost leg would remain in place, as now his own sword would go for the easier target - grip still held just as it had been - he would slash through the man's trapped leg, completely through (somewhere around due to obscured pant leg) the center of his calf, having only to shift his wrist at the last instant as he leaned back with the strike, avoiding his opponents simultaneous uncommitted slash by removing his arms from the threat range.

The excess inches his opponent had given his swing, allowing him to deviate his upwards slash into a more defensive angle with inferior reach, meant that Go had far less work to do to avoid its touch. The man's blade was in the position to block the incoming sword swing only if Go had stayed on course - but due to his own footwork, was not in a position to prevent the removal of his own trapped pant-leg, and hidden limb. Though this would not finish the warrior - Go would merely step back and observe the new scene, exiting their mutual strike range by less than a meter.

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His opponent thinking that his upwards cut with his sword was a purely defensive movement would seem to play into Shiki's favor. While the man would try and lock down the fabric around his legs it would do nothing to stop the sword swing that Shiki had preformed. Shiki's blade would travel aiming at the man's sword arm and easily cut through the man's arm severing it in its entirety. With the blade 35 inches long and the man standing on his clothing the sword wouldn't need its full reach to reach his opponents arm. His opponent seemed to think that he was targeting where the blade arm itself would be traveling. Not where it's fixed location was. Since Shiki had started his sword swing first his blade would find it's mark. Ribbons of blood would start to fall from his opponent as his arm would become detached wielding his sword.  

His opponent now upon him standing on the fabric of his clothes would leave him off balance. Shiki would would pivot into his opponent lowering his shoulder and elbowing him in his sternum as his blade sunk into his opponents flesh. Shiki would use the space he created to twist his sword changing the angle of the cut and spinning violently clockwise bringing the blade down and across his opponents mid section. 


 

[Moon]

Shared from PM via Snow's Permission:

So; your very first line is metagaming. Youre literally talking about what I'm thinking, lol, which is only possible because you read my post and ooc thought you caught a mistake. You've also negated actions ive taken by (most likely) not reading thoroughly. Ive stated moving both arms out of the threat range of your swing. I've never stated that your strike was purely defensive. Unless you can take a step back without moving the top half of your body, your reach simply isn't the same, especially considering that i'v stated leaning back as well. Because the metagame led to the assumption that I hadn't dodged, you ACTUALLY didn't dodge, thinking removing my arm would stop me from cutting off your leg. Because you didn't dodge, and didn't acknowledge the strike at all, its a critical. One critical is all you need to die from an opponent who knows what they're doing.

So; the point of this was to see how you are at T1; It hasn't taken long for me to see. I went into it with the assumption that you were the bottom of the bunch.

I was actually wrong. You're alot better than I gave you credit for. You've picked up enough of the basics from mimicking that it suggests youre a nautral, you just have shitty habits from people who will let you skew/break/bend the boundaries of honorable t1 because they want to do the same.

Don't negate your opponents actions, that's godmodding. Instead, take what they've left open and describe how it is inadequate to perform what they wish. I stated moving my arms out of the threat range - a big, vague way of putting it. Capitalize on that: other than leaning back, moving my wrists, etc - the other specifics are open to you to detail.

If you instead say something like "though the opponents arms moved themselves out of range of my swing, the counterclockwise motion his double-handed grip would have to perform in order to remove my foot allowed me to deflect its savagery with that very same slash. Before reaching the height of its travel it would lash out suddenly, stabbing forwards. My bagging pants leg had been cut off by my foe - losing my balance caused my legs to spring up into a roll instinctively, drawing my knees in as I felt the cloth catch, preventing his already inaccurate strike from severing my leg and rolling me out of strike range"

or any variation/condensing of all that, the opponent can't invalidate your actions, and you won't need to invalidate theirs.

Otherwise; solid sword stuff, decent basics, shitty habits. Completely fixable.

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Thanks for being amenable about all this. You are correct the first part of the paragraph was meta knowledge but it doesn't influence or change the actions of the post. Rather I was just trying to find a way to explain my logic to you as to why my hit would land. I wasn't trying to use ooc knowledge to my benefit rather just trying to paint my logic more thoroughly. 

So my contention is this. I let you step on my characters legs because I wanted you to be close to me for my swing to connect. I made certain to explain the length of my blade previously for this exact reasoning especially dealing with the retraction of my blade in previous posts. I wanted the full reach of my blade to be set ahead of time. To me you wouldn't have the ability to stay out of striking range which is 35 inches plus the partial length of the human arm. Moreover I was already swinging my sword prior to your sword swing.

based off of T1 would your dodge attempt even follow through? Keeping in mid if my post wins out your arm would be severed. 

"However this time with its new deviated course it would be brought up past the initial height originally aimed for. But this time it would be aimed for the opponents incoming sword arm. Keeping his blades cant he would be able to keep his blade in a defensive position. Even if the blade itself didn't bite into the swordsman's arm it would at the very least put itself in the position to block the incoming sword swing."

vs

"as he leaned back with the strike, avoiding his opponents simultaneous uncommitted slash by removing his arms from the threat range."

[Moon]

I'm glad you not only brought this up, but also that you phrased it the way you did, as I see this as what people misconstrue the most here;

The only reason my dodge attempt follows through is because you did not properly acknowledge it occurring, and used outside of character information as the basis for legitimizing why your attack could occur the way you wanted - you also included a hypothetical that included the scenario where even if the blade itself didn't bite into the swordsman's arm - meaning you've already made it possible that even without me doing anything at all, it was possible that you could have missed me.

If you're targeting a fixed location, and I move my arms out of that fixed location, it becomes your job, via T1, to explain compensating for that. If you can't do so legitimately, your action doesn't carry through. Because OOC knowledge informed your post (I.E. 'knowing' about an 'oversight' is the reason you posted the way you did), it cannot be said to be legitimate.

So, the arm cut never happens - though it would have been easy by you, with the addition of a few words, to make that happen - and you haven't done anything to deal with the strike claiming your own limb.

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So if I make a paragraph long swing

you make a 2 sentence dodge. 

the burden is on me to point out your dodge in my post specifically? Wouldn't the outcome be resolved after the rounds had passed? I assumed the BM would make a judgement based on if your post or my post was sufficient in deciding the outcome here. 


Bare with me im trying to figure this out. 


Also, just because I leave a spacing in my actions. "Even if the blade didn't land." Doesn't mean it wouldn't, rather it was to set up my positioning for the blade with a defensive posturing. 

[Moon]

The issue is in ignoring it; all you would have had to change was "merely moving his arms back with his lean wasn't enough to evade etcetc becaus of etcetc reason" - its your responsibility to prove that the defense is inadequate. What you did was ignore that I'd taken the action of moving my arms, in connection with the act of avoiding your sword swing. You attributed my dodge to stepping on your pants, and that oversight is the only reason your attack has to miss. I understand your point about wanting to see equivalent response for effort, and no, every five paragraph post cant be met with a two word legitimate response. But common sense and logic have to prevail.

If there's an impenetrable wall next to me, and you make a ten paragraph post about shooting an attack at me, I don't have to make a ten paragraph post to take a step behind the wall and avoid it, for instance. Because I was so vague, you could have been equally as vague in dismissing my defense attempt, and it would have had its legitimacy cemented because the length of our posts did not match. Equal length is a factor, but of course not the sole determining factor in the judgment of a battle.

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Didn't I do that here? 

" Shiki's blade would travel aiming at the man's sword arm and easily cut through the man's arm severing it in its entirety. With the blade 35 inches long and the man standing on his clothing the sword wouldn't need its full reach to reach his opponents arm."

your dodge specifically mentioned the range being he key point. You dodging by exceeding the range.


i guess the real question boils down to the question. "Am I supposed to be focusing more on justifying my actions or tearing down yours? Is it a happy medium somewhere?" 

[Moon]

You started the sword swing the post before last; this most recent post was confirming its carry-through action. Because your actions in the recent post have not changed in response to mine (by not acknowledging the actual reasoning for the dodge - moving my arms), you are carrying out your sword swing as if I did not move my arms even though I actually did.

Meaning, you could not possibly be aiming for an area that I - according to you - did not move my arms into at all - get what I mean? You make your own desired actions impossible.

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So I understand why the dodge would go through based on the T1 aspect. 

But the dodge you are trying to perform doesn't seem physically possible avoid this attack. So even though the physical machinations you provided don't seem adequate they still occur? 

[Moon]

Precisely; what i've provided as defense for your maneuvers is completely inadequate - all it would require to overcome them is acknowledging it via rp. "Moved my arms out of threat range" isn't telling you how I did it while mentioning the exact length of your blade, the angle of your swing relative to my position, the canting of the blade, those things all tell me (or the BM) how you are actually able to successfully hit. It's simply on You to make the connection by acknowledging everyone's actions.

By ignoring the dodge, you allow it to go through in 'any manner necessary' from a T1 perspective, from an RP perspective, it would happen via a method you 'couldnt understand'.  Normally, because I left my description vague and yours was more detailed, you would easily be determined the winner of the contention that I didn't do enough to dodge. 

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Rad! 

Thanks for the breakdown! Want to keep going?