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In my epic I'm getting random debuffs thrown at my character which don't have a will save. This entire epic I've been having to deal with my GM randomly changing the environment with the intention of messing with my character while simply being playful with the others. But now my character may very well die because of it.
Doing stuff like letting Loki's character literally break a mountain by doing hot Yoga. To turning around and slapping me with a random debuff that takes away 1/2 of ALL my stats, conditions, chakra, strength several rounds after I had somehow unnoticingly picked up the debuff. To dropping a 8000 AP ice mountain in front of us that we had to break through. Changing how our techs work to prevent us from communicating. Randomly adding massive amounts of lead in the ground to prevent us from seeing, or phasing through objects (its magic lead). randomly adding 500 DR to pieces of ice just because I wasn't trying to solve a riddle and would rather carve it. Then having my character literally turn to stone without a will save during what is assumingly a boss fight.
I Really am not a fan of heavy handed GMing, I typically try and resolve it with the GM. But this is clearly outside of my ability to deal with.
Post by Wolf of the Falls on Feb 25, 2018 14:11:04 GMT -7
your character wont die hes just now a non factor.
the debuff was already in play before you came back after leaving your epic.
the debuff activated in the last room.
the 8000 mountain wasnt meant to be brute forced yet you did
loki was removed from space-time so yeah your communication tech didnt work
the lead in the ground was there for a long time and never stopped you from phasing through it, phasing through solid ground when you have no idea where you are and cant see is just stupid.
yes the ice in the ice god's temple had 500 DR
you got frozen because you ignored the mechanics of the Epic whereas your party members didn't. You arent going to die and I have no intention of killing you.
Axel: A-3840/5500 Hime: C-710/750---Rey: C 610/750---Exccel: C 650/750
your character wont die hes just now a non factor. - You are Autoing me with a debuff to turn my character into stone without a wills save. This is absurdly heavy handed and ignores pretty much every site mechanic we have. What is the point of having a build at all if things like this occur?
the debuff was already in play before you came back after leaving your epic. - The debuff was NEVER stated until you randomly put a brand on my face. I'd like you to show me the post where the debuff occurred please feel free to post it.
the debuff activated in the last room. - The debuff activated in the room with the boss fight. Where I was summoned back into. You never stated it occured till after the fact.
the 8000 mountain wasnt meant to be brute forced yet you did - we had 3 different observation checks on the mountain that revealed nothing to us. divine lore, jutsu lore etc. You said it was solid ice with no tunnels or anything to navigate through.
loki was removed from space-time so yeah your communication tech didnt work - our techs work past space time for our communication. I stated this and you said. "She was technically dead." At which point I realized you were just doing everything you could to make your story happen.
the lead in the ground was there for a long time and never stopped you from phasing through it, phasing through solid ground when you have no idea where you are and cant see is just stupid. - You literally told us in the cbox we couldn't phase through the lead and it would nullify our chakra if we tried to move past it. That the only way to there was through the mountain -
yes the ice in the ice god's temple had 500 DR - right -
you got frozen because you ignored the mechanics of the Epic whereas your party members didn't. You arent going to die and I have no intention of killing you.
- mechanics of the epic? Everything mechanically up till now has been whimsical. If I stretched and did hot yoga at the ice god would that have killed him? You're literally autoing me with a tech that I can't counter during a death enabled event. Because I cleansed a debuff that you had already auto'ed me with. -
Last Edit: Feb 25, 2018 14:32:08 GMT -7 by Deleted
After reflecting on the two symbols all the women would come to is that they are the respective signs of Mateus and Lahabrea. However as the women ventured deeper into the cave they'd find the cold no longer assaulted their being. Eventually they'd come to an opening to a vast room made of ice roughly 100m tall, 100m long, and 50m wide, however after entering the snake bearing the white mark would lose half it's stats. A 5 meter long black path lead straight through the room leading up to what looked like a black ornate altar embedded in ice. Within the grasp of the black altar seemed to be a woman bound to it as if they were one in the same, her cold skin shimmering in the cold light while a long spear is held within the altar seeming to bar access to the woman's body.
"So this is where you hid..." A deep melodic voice filled the area as a ray of golden light fell from above onto the black path illuminating the room of ice before vanishing leaving a man garbed in gold standing in it's place. A sinister grin spread across the man's face while his staff floated beside him glittering in gold while he ignored the women but was not unaware of their presence.
OOC: Mark of Mateus: immune to cold and dark effects Mark of Lahabrea: lose half of all stats
the above quote also gives activation time
8000 AP was the entirety of the mountain, 500-1000AP of damage wouldve carved a tunnel to where you needed to be
I never said that about the ice, I just said dont phase into it when you cant see, I stopped saying anything when loki said she could just go down and walk to the cave entrance, fact of the matter i I dont see why you didnt just walk through the mountain. or use your teleport circle
you expect ice from something specialized in the element to be normal?
and yeah you got frozen because you ignored the mechanics, the answer to orbs was in the story that you got in your jounin exam. as for the yoga it was just funny so I let the last 200 AP of the mountain fall apart which is about the equivalent of a boulder off to the side. if it needs to be clearer, you ignored the story so you chose the wrong god to get into the temple, you got a debuff for chosing the wrong element, and you got benched because you removed the sigil you needed to be IN the final chamber.
you may call it heavy handed but it stands that you chose your route through it and the results reflect that. also since it seems like it may not be apparent, when you said you didn't want to continue anymore and left the epic, I considered it giving up. Im making that clear now before we get to the end and you think im trying to kick you in the balls again, the fact that its not your fight anymore is why I benched you in the boss fight.
Axel: A-3840/5500 Hime: C-710/750---Rey: C 610/750---Exccel: C 650/750
- So in that entire post you just mentioned. Was anything posted in there about me at all? Did it ever actually say anything about any energy at all affecting me in any sort of way? Because im not seeing it.
- You in fact did say specifically in the cbox that we couldn't phase into the chamber because of the lead. Thought at this point this is devolving into a he said she said thing.
- I expect you to state things as they appear and are interacted with. If we walk into a room and examine the room. And the ice is some sort of magical ice that has 500 DR. Literally all of us would have the appropriate skills to tell that that was the case. But you waiting till someone starts idling to start randomly throwing new environmental changes just feels like you're making it up as you go to mess with us.
- Your story. Made zero sense. If feels like you took this story from somewhere else and in an effort to replicate didn't make it clear at all what was going on or what needed to be done. Details started to be added in after we entered the room suddenly just manifesting. Various random glowing circles that weren't there when we were in there suddenly appearing. No indicators were made as to what was what. Rather you had glowing ball A and glowing ball B.
- You can call it me making choices. But as I see it I wasn't left with any options then literally sitting in an ice cave while you stumbled through a regurgitated story. Any attempt made to work around the problem was met with random additions to the environment or situation to force us back into your plot. If you are gonna try and "bench" my character for the boss fight then do it properly. The fact that you have to auto me with lazily constructed debuffs that don't exist on the site, have to constantly change how IC tech interactions work and ignore our skills and stats to me just indicate that every action you are making are based on solely on your whims and not on the characters. Which is not how this should be done.
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Post by Wolf of the Falls on Feb 25, 2018 19:48:27 GMT -7
it effected the three who were there all at the same time, you were exempt because you had left the thread when you returned you were effected just the same
the story was light god cast down the dark god whose consort was the ice god, its not that hard to see the points. the circles on the wall were added after you all entered because they represented each living being in the room.
stop talking shit about a reused story it frankly doesnt matter if you like it or not, no one talked to me about any plans for their character and this is the same event set up for your exam.
at no point did I force anyone back in, Nira had the best plan about the mountain trying to melt it, loki was the only one who bothered to figure out how to get through the first room, you punched a mountain. I dont want to pull rank so I'm not going to but as the GM its at my discretion how I run it, whether its making up attacks or making puzzles for the sake of the lore. You arent the main character and im not going to cater to you
Axel: A-3840/5500 Hime: C-710/750---Rey: C 610/750---Exccel: C 650/750
See, this is back to the point. Your entire point about me getting this debuff was NEVER stated in any of your posts. So you just slapping me with it the moment we entered the boss room, without a save.
Then without any forewarning at all, removing this debuff suddenly hits me with another auto fail where im suddenly paralyzed and turned to ice completely removed from the epic. I'm saying you should not be able to auto me, its like a staple of T1 to avoid this.
I didn't even know it was a reused story till this moment. But you are spilling this out like this should have been common knowledge. Like we should have walked into the room and known instantly that "Oh this is the gods of light and darks temple. Clearly they were consorting together etc etc etc." Where none of this was ever explained at all.
Nira tried to melt the mountain from the top. It was taking too long so I broke it. But you trying to say, that having us melt through an 8000 ap mountain is more tactful then breaking it was insane. Why would I wait 400 rounds for an 8000 ap mountain to be depleted 120 ap a turn where I could just punch it down in a single round? This point is irrelevant it has no bearing on the major issue.
I'm not asking you to "cater" to anything. As the GM you still have to abide to certain rules to the site. I'm literally only asking you to do exactly what you signed up for when you applied. Directly from the application you put forth and applied for. So don't act like im trying to brow beat you to have something done my way. I simply don't want my character literally autoed out of a fight from a non-explained, unmentioned, autoed debuff that by all rights I should have cleansed via things that already exist on site. So if you are going to try and bench me out of this fight for some ooc reasoning. Do it in a way that makes sense and isn't well frankly, hot garbage.
Right from your position application as the GM you:
Must know the Character Strength Rules. Must know the Shinobi Organizational System and Creature Types Must be familiar with Battle Rules and Death Enabled as they will be in charge of overseeing their own Battles in their Events.
From the rules: narutoforumrp.proboards.com/thread/61629 3. No Auto-Attacks. This is the statement that your attack landed without letting your opponent counter, block, dodge, avoid, or deflect in their posts after.
In conclusion: TLDNR...
You've admitted to basically plagiarizing a story. While pulling a characters name, appearance, abilities etc is one thing. We are literally following a story that you pulled off of another source material. Which is a whole different issue all together, one that is beyond my scope to tackle.
You've admitted you are autoing me without a save and seem not to care about it. In fact you feel its justified. Because as a Gm you are in charge of doing what you see is right. Clearly we have very different understandings of what that means. So instead of continuing this I think we should both just wait for staff to get involved.
Either way this is outside of my scope. I guess we just wait.
Post by neko bo beko on Feb 25, 2018 21:20:59 GMT -7
soo im not staff exactly and i dont want to step on toes or out of place but as a fellow GM all i want to say is that the stories we do as game masters are for the RPers and not for us. we have to expect them to do things we don't like or don't expect, and we have to adjust the stories to compensate for the ways they handle what we throw at them. we have to be as fair as another roleplayer, not take advantage of status and metagame to bend the story exactly how we want, while also keeping it fun and challenging. and i remember another person leaving one the threads you gm'd claiming you were unfair as well. this seems like a really personal dispute though, so i'm sorry for intruding lol
although i will say it says in the gm guide that we're allowed reference other stories, so there's no actual problem in the reuse of a trope/story.
from the game master/kage guide
GM as Creator
You might be the type of Game Master who uses help from pre-existing Adventures, such as Games, Movies and others. Or you might be the type of GM who tends to create Adventures from scratch. Either way, you have a role as a creator when you’re the GM.
Last Edit: Feb 25, 2018 21:22:24 GMT -7 by neko bo beko