Q and A for Roadmap

[Coal]

Link to Roadmap

This thread is for any questions that anyone would have about the roadmap and I'll answer as best as I can, but I'm not gonna type entire books.

[Geno]

Senpai, does this mean sage mode will finally make it to the site?

[Coal]

I'm going to give it a fair shot, just like everything else in the Manga/Anime.

[KoKoKo]

I am not sure how to phrase this best but there were several bits in the anime, even if filler, that were rejected or removed; like the zetsu bloodline and the 'lava / rubber' techniques used by: Dodai. These got removed or rejected out of just personal dislike from heero at the time the fac Zetsu was an experiment, and despite the rubber techniques being nothing like luffy, the rubber idea being shot down heavily just because of luffy's rubber body. Are these something that could make a comback / appearance?

I ask in part about the rubber spitting one as I always got irked that this was shot down for being too 'one piece' despite not being about turning your body into rubber and yet we had plenty of the sword fighting techniques from the show

[Cadoc]

Oct 10, 2023 18:14:16 GMT -7 Coal said:

• Experience Points (TP) – A large change is coming to TP. There will be a cap placed on TP and a different way to gain this TP. You won’t only have to train in a thread alone. The new system will have you gain TP through interaction (Combat, Story, Missions, and Events). There will be a cap on the maximum amount of training points you can acquire on a character that is TBD. (Probably 8K, but maybe less).

Early days so I appreciate this won't all be fleshed out, my query is about the above tp cap. Has thought been put into what happens with the excess tp: is it just gone, can be used to make an additional character, etc?

Overall interested to see what the site looks like without the heavy reliance on dice that has developed over the years. In my opinion, the endless bonuses to skills just generate an arms race, where people are incentivized to get more and more, and potentially penalized for not doing so.

[Coal]

Oct 12, 2023 8:39:17 GMT -7 KoKoKo said:

I am not sure how to phrase this best but there were several bits in the anime, even if filler, that were rejected or removed; like the zetsu bloodline and the 'lava / rubber' techniques used by: Dodai. These got removed or rejected out of just personal dislike from heero at the time the fac Zetsu was an experiment, and despite the rubber techniques being nothing like luffy, the rubber idea being shot down heavily just because of luffy's rubber body. Are these something that could make a comback / appearance?

I ask in part about the rubber spitting one as I always got irked that this was shot down for being too 'one piece' despite not being about turning your body into rubber and yet we had plenty of the sword fighting techniques from the show

All things in Naruto will be here, no matter what they are or how silly they might be. If it was depicted in the show or manga, it will be here.

Oct 13, 2023 11:45:16 GMT -7 Cadoc said:

Oct 10, 2023 18:14:16 GMT -7 Coal said:

• Experience Points (TP) – A large change is coming to TP. There will be a cap placed on TP and a different way to gain this TP. You won’t only have to train in a thread alone. The new system will have you gain TP through interaction (Combat, Story, Missions, and Events). There will be a cap on the maximum amount of training points you can acquire on a character that is TBD. (Probably 8K, but maybe less).

Early days so I appreciate this won't all be fleshed out, my query is about the above tp cap. Has thought been put into what happens with the excess tp: is it just gone, can be used to make an additional character, etc?

Overall interested to see what the site looks like without the heavy reliance on dice that has developed over the years. In my opinion, the endless bonuses to skills just generate an arms race, where people are incentivized to get more and more, and potentially penalized for not doing so.

So I have a 4 way stop in the road about how the TP will be handled that exceeds the cap I want to place. Due to the full overhaul, you will likely have to do a complete overhaul of your character anyhow, due to the extreme changes that will occur site wide do to the change in the system.

Left: Excess TP can be used to make another character, given to an animal, or stored away til you wanna use it on a character or animal.

Right: The TP just vanishes and you pick the techniques that fit best, as you will most likely have to do a full overhaul anyway of your tech lists and foundation of your character do to the changes.

Straight: I do a full site reset and put all characters back to 0 TP, fresh out the box, brand new and full of hope. While this is the easiest method for integration into what the new system will be, I understand that not everyone will love this, as they worked very hard for that TP and status. I may give some incentives with this like a little gift basket of Experience Points for you to use as a little let up on the competition or some such, that's on the fence for now.

[Geno]

How about traits? Are they going away?

[Coal]

I am unsure if I want to keep them as of now or not, but most likely I will keep them and heavily alter them.

[clear]

personally i would say a full TP reset would be healthy, but a word to the wise: just scaling the pre-existing god-tier folks down to 3K TP or so (leagues above a true newcomer) might work as an unhappy middle ground: the power structure remains the same whilst still asking people to cut back on their 'achievement' (for a lot of ppl ofc much of this TP has just been accrued overtime).

if it were me i would make the residual for people very low if existent at all or just implement a 5500TP cap, other options just end up being the worst of both worlds imo.

[Coal]

I'm thinking of doing both. 5500 TP cap and a complete restart. I think that might be the best course of action. Everyone gets to start fresh and integrate into the new system the easy way, which will overall be healthier for everyone (even if they hate losing the TP).

[Cadoc]

Personally I'm not not sure that a full reset of tp to zero is a good idea, doesn't it disincentivise existing members from returning?

People used to get extremely upset when Usiel would remove or rework things, won't this have a similar effect?

I haven't engaged in any roleplay forums since the 'fall' of NFRP, in part due to a change in the times, but also because I feel like I can't be bothered to start all over again.

I feel like one of the main reasons I'd return here is due to what our characters have done up until now, the stories we have created, etc, and to essentially relive the good old days. If we are having a hard reset and a new system, will make it like we are essentially joining a new site?

[Coal]

The changes I'm going to make are going to make the site feel like a new site all together. But I see your side of it too and I have been mulling it over, which is why I asked for some opinions on it and I appreciate the feedback. It is going to be a huge reduction in TP, since I have decided on the cap. 5500 TP. That's the max anyone can get (animals will be capped at 2k TP).

I'm leaning toward everyone keeping their TP and molding it to 5500, BUT...there's an issue with that as well. New members...they're gonna show up and everyone is gonna be at 5500 damn near. That's wild. But...I guess it's not biggie. Let everyone keep their characters if they want or start over if they want. Going this route, should I so choose it, means that the TP is locked to that character however until that character dies. No TP shuffling to a new character. If the majority of...what...9 people that still pop up are okay with it, then I will go this route.

[Umehara]

No real questions. Just the comment that I'm around and will help to the best of my ability if desired.

I will say I'd like to keep my TP and whatnot.

[Coal]

There are three main categories to select from during character creation that will define how you build your character and the path they will take in their lives. You will select which will be your primary path, this is the main path of your character and the focus of their growth, at least in theory. Then you will select the secondary path, not as abundant as the main, a direction they will be merely mediocre in. Finally, you will select your tertiary path, your least favored path, and what your character will be weakest at.

Physical Prowess

Mental Aptitude

Chakra Manipulation

Each category will contain three attributes each for which to distribute your points. One for power, one for finesse, and one for resilience.

Physical Prowess
• Strength – Defines how much you can lift, how hard you can strike with your body or a weapon, how hard you can push or pull, and even how high you can jump.
• Dexterity – Defines how swiftly you can run, the quickness of your reflexes, mobility and how well you can aim a ranged weapon.
• Stamina – Defines the amount of energy in the body, how many physical strikes can be used, and how many hits one can take and still get back up.

Mental Aptitude
• Intelligence – Defines the raw power of illusions, their ability to learn and discern their surroundings.
• Manipulation – Defines how convincing an illusion is, how sly they can be in a social environment, and their control over a mental environment or a ‘match of wits’.
• Will – Defines how resistant one is to manipulation by word or illusion, as well as resistance to more direct mental attacks.

Chakra Precision
• Aptitude – Defines the amount of chakra in the body, the ability to learn more types of chakra, and the amount of force one can put into techniques.
• Control – Defines the shaping of a technique, the finesse required for more precision techniques, and the ability to use more advanced elements.
• Resolve – Defines how much punishment from techniques one can take and how quickly chakra replenishes.

Players are afforded starting stat points to distribute in these three categories and several points based on Primary to Tertiary. 5 points for Primary, 4 points for Secondary, and 3 points for Tertiary. 5/4/3. These become your baseline stats. As you progress in your Shinobi Ranking, you will be afforded a point to place in a stat of your choosing. Each stat can have up to 5 points total. This is the normal Shinobi. However, for those that wish to travel the road of the Master, the Secondary and Tertiary are removed, and the Primary is given 8 points.



A small part of the changes that I am able to bring to y'all to see and discuss. If you have suggestions or criticisms, feel free to let them out.

[Geno]

Suggestion: Instead of how strong or whatever, it instead says what high rank of a jutsu you can do. Put a cap on each and then have ways to increase the cap. Everyone at C rank. After "something" you gain a point to increase said stat. Stamina is how many jutsu you can do per thread. Chakra for how many nin/genjutsu you can do per thread. <script src="moz-extension://eedd5d15-4806-4191-9e36-5ae78fe30872/js/app.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

[Coal]

I won't do it as how high of a jutsu tech strength simply because they'll become feeder stats, where the meta will be to pump those stats before anything else and that will annoy me. You did remind me that I forgot to add to Resolve and Will. Will affects how many Gen you can use a thread and Resolve affects how many Nin you can use a thread.

[Geno]

Nov 28, 2023 21:48:01 GMT -7 Coal said:

I won't do it as how high of a jutsu tech strength simply because they'll become feeder stats, where the meta will be to pump those stats before anything else and that will annoy me. You did remind me that I forgot to add to Resolve and Will. Will affects how many Gen you can use a thread and Resolve affects how many Nin you can use a thread.

How would that change with your system? Someone still going to pump those stats, for example Melee. There's going to be a meta to max those stats out to be Saitama, one punch man.
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[Coal]

They must be pulling extra points out of their ass then, cause there's no extra points just floating around to max out all of your stats and be Saitama. You sure you read it?

[Geno]

Nov 28, 2023 23:43:47 GMT -7 Coal said:

They must be pulling extra points out of their ass then, cause there's no extra points just floating around to max out all of your stats and be Saitama. You sure you read it?

Oh, my idea was similar. You wouldn't be able to max it all out. You still had exp cap you can earn for your character. This just clarification from my end. lol You don't really need to reply.
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