Sasuke 694

[try4]

squeeeaaall

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so pissed that this chapter was wasted on this and not the overuse of the sharingan

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[👺 Usiel]

Fuck Sasuke. This dude is not the light that can light up the darkness. He's just a punk that no one fucking likes. His methods are stupid, his actions are stupid, his motivation was driven by hate. He didn't shoulder anything and just took it without complaint. All he did was bitch and moan. He did that shit for fucking years. No one will ever accept him, no one will take him as a Kage. His actions make no fucking choice except the fact that he has a brother complex and doesn't know whether he still hates his brother or wants to fuck him.

[Captain M]

He makes no real sense when you give it any hint of thought. I mean, he's pretty much has the same thought process as Pain and Obito. Wanting to destroy the current system and build their own version of what they believe is best. So he finally helps the heroes fight the big evil, only to decide to become the evil he helped to thwart? It makes no real sense.

I really hope this is drawing the manga to an end.

[try4]

how dare the sasuke hate.

i imagine that the prowess of his ocular abilities enable him to see in a way that others cannot, thus the superiority complex of those with dojutsu. of course, given everything that has happened to sasuke, why would he not feel as he does; he feels as though things like tailed beasts are a problem because they can be used as weapons.. he disagrees with the current 5 kages because of how they ran things in the past. i could see him sparing gaara but thats it. id love to see a manga or follow up based around sasuke moreso than naruto tbh. 

[Captain M]

That's straight up blasphemous 0_0

[Defiant]

...Suddenly realizing that Sasuke might have actually had the most character growth out of the Trio...and...Naruto might have actually had the least. Sasuke's the only one who's found himself conflicted with actual moral decisions, and not awalsy simply picking between good and bad like running away and not, but picking bettween bad and worse, decending into real hatred and simple destruction, or focused rage and murder while on the side of the fence he believed he was on. Do we like, him? No, he's generally an asshat, but then again, Itatchi was an asshat too who had his motivations set in stone from the moment he appeared. Itatchi made the dark choice too and had to deal with it, as was their clans habbit, and had to make the best of the choices he had. If sasuke had come to his final realization before his character introduction, he'd be a more loved character than Itatchi, but because we've watched him go along this road, because we've seen every shaky step he's taken and every fall he's made...it actually makes him feel more real, because there's one thing we can't forget about either of them; their 15. Their in their mid teens, hormonal, confused angsty and also in a time of war, surrounded by death and bloodshed and the kind of effects that can have on an adults psyche is nothing to laugh at, but on a child's?

Sasuke has a Childish Goal: Be the Hokage of all the villages, even in translationg, being the 'Fire Shadow' of all the villages doesn't make sense; it's like saying "I'm going to be Prime Minister of the world," regardless of the multiple countries different structres, but at the same time, he's trying to go about it in an adult way. But his only examples of a proper adult he has is his Brother, someone who while affectionate to him, was always seemingly cold and different in every flashback he's portrayed in, including the ones with him and Sasuke. The thing is, it's the change from his initial goal to kill his brother, to now wanting a more extreme version of what Itatchi wanted, actually makes a lot of sense. As facts about hte betrayal were revealed, we see him confused about what to do and how to go about things while still trying to keep his facade of calmness that he's adobted from Itachi. As he learns about why Itatchi did what he did, his emotions, things it looks like he doesn't have or trys to shun, drive him to want to destroy the village. As he comes to understand that the village isn't the problem, but all villages are, he realizes he wants to destroy them all, and after realizing that destroying them all would only make more people like, him, and like Itatchi, he realizes that he needs to simply be an embodiment of that initial desire.

The duality between Naruto and Sasuke comes from the fact that they both want to protect what they care about, but everything Sasuke cared about is dead. Their conflict is summed up in something Sasuke said to naruto about him not understanding his pain, because he never had parents, but naruto tries to fire back with how he had people that are just like his family all around him.... but didn't Naruto go right the fuck off the rails when people started dying around him? When Konoha was decimated? When, for a brief moment, he thought he had nothing left? What if he really didn't? What if pain honest to God killed everyone he knew and left naruto sobbing in the dirt? Naruto's 'benevolence' wouldn't have lasted long, even if he didn't already have a demon inside of him.

But because everyone comes back (Except for Jiraiya but i'll get to that), Naruto's got no problems.He's got his motivation, his people to protect and covet, while Sasuke only has himself. Don't forget either that the death of Sasuke's entire clan was only a couple years before the beginning of the series, while the Kyuubi attack was almost 13. If People still whispered about Naruto for over a Decade, you could only imagine how much people avoided Sasuke. If Naruto was a demon, Sasuke had to be cursed. With an Order from the Third to keep the whole thing quiet as well, then Sasuke looks like the younger brother of a Psycopathic Murderous Traitor of a Clan of people who have always been considered Murderous, Psycopathic and Dark for literally their entire history. To finally see Sasuke taking all that as the official last living Uchiha and to come out of it all with a goal that is now basically the same as Naruto's (To be recognized by everyone in the village) is really cool for his character.

Naruto, on the other hand, had this goal right from the start, and throughout the series, only ever had people there to affirm and push that singular goal forward, until the fact that he wants to be the hokage is all there really his to his character. His character than he didn't even falter when he was told by that Slug that Jiraya was dead, because Kishimoto probably couldn't even concieve something that coupld possibly be considered a subtle emotional responce for Naruto.

Even Sakura develops more as a character than Naruto does. Fucking Sakura, for god's sake.

All in all, I hope Naruto dies in this fight, and Sasuke succeeds, because just like they said in the first chapters, Naruto hs hardly even cool enough to be the main character of his own story.

[try4]

...m explain your words.

you guys obviously dont understand where i am coming from.

following uchihan lore, im saying that sasuke is cool. like, id enjoy to read some uchiha kick ass shit because i bet it'd be dope. he's practically a new version of madara, all or most uchiha follow a similar path based on the curse of hatred. like, isn't it cool to think that because of his ocular prowess that he sees in a different light/fashion?

i'd delve further in on my view of this but 420

But because everyone comes back (Except for Jiraiya but i'll get to that), Naruto's got no problems.He's got his motivation, his people to protect and covet, while Sasuke only has himself. Don't forget either that the death of Sasuke's entire clan was only a couple years before the beginning of the series, while the Kyuubi attack was almost 13. If People still whispered about Naruto for over a Decade, you could only imagine how much people avoided Sasuke. If Naruto was a demon, Sasuke had to be cursed. With an Order from the Third to keep the whole thing quiet as well, then Sasuke looks like the younger brother of a Psycopathic Murderous Traitor of a Clan of people who have always been considered Murderous, Psycopathic and Dark for literally their entire history. To finally see Sasuke taking all that as the official last living Uchiha and to come out of it all with a goal that is now basically the same as Naruto's (To be recognized by everyone in the village) is really cool for his character.

Naruto, on the other hand, had this goal right from the start, and throughout the series, only ever had people there to affirm and push that singular goal forward, until the fact that he wants to be the hokage is all there really his to his character. His character than he didn't even falter when he was told by that Slug that Jiraya was dead, because Kishimoto probably couldn't even concieve something that coupld possibly be considered a subtle emotional responce for Naruto.

Even Sakura develops more as a character than Naruto does. Fucking Sakura, for god's sake.

All in all, I hope Naruto dies in this fight, and Sasuke succeeds, because just like they said in the first chapters, Naruto hs hardly even cool enough to be the main character of his own story. 

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[Captain M]

Oh, the blasphemous thing was obv a joke.

All of you are entitled to your opinions of how AMG SASUKE IS AMAZING <3

But I just can not stand him.

But I will definitely admit that Siobhan explained his/herself very well and there is a certain logic to it all. Still I just feel like he committing multiple more murders to create his utopia is not something that is super constructive. The current Kage system may have caused senseless war. But the five Kage CAME TOGETHER to unite against a thread, they've built bonds that could bring an era of piece now that Obito/Madara/Kaguya have been taken out.

It's as if Sasuke doesn't know that the land is united and that there is a chance for peace. Instead he believes himself the only one that can lead the land into greatness? Why? Because he's had a harsh upbringing and that gives him the right to play god?

I unno n_n