I present.. your Head Mod

["The Titan" Bartholomeus]

This is ~Raven. I receently had an interesting rp with Ayame, our Head mod. The odds, as you may know, were stacked 2.5k vs a whooping 12k tp. First thought here, tp doesnt mean much but that wont hold water here. Even if I had weapons, i'd be halfway a miracle to make it out of there. I was defeated by next turn. Anyone in such a predicament would deflate as I did. I didnt want to rp with her and knowing her, she wouldnt just leave. I spoke to Heero about the situation and said i should ask if she'd spare me. EVEN HE WAS SKEPTICAL.

As a moderator on this site, such dickish actions should be frowned upon someone in her position. On top of that, she replied to my pm in this fashion.

"Sorry gotta stay in character." Im on a cell phone, tough to post the screenshot.

The thread is there to see. If a new rper were to see this they'd turn the other way. I dont know whats going on in Ayames personal life but i feel it was vented on me and my character.

The rp was legit, but the reasoning behind her appearance was only for OOC gains.

[Gohan]

I don't want to start any drama here, but I would like to point out that if you're B class or above, you're fair game in any thread unless you're a kage. This would never be an issue for a new player. plus, I doubt any staff member here would purposefully try to ruin someone's experience.

I totally get the whole unfairness aspect of dying to someone who heavily outclasses you (IE Nira vs me in the CE exams) but it's just part of the game. Instead of being mopey about it I moved on and now look at me; there's not that many people on the site who could match up to me if I properly specced out my TP instead of dumping half of it in byakugan.
There are games out there more populous than this one that has player deaths all the time and it's really no big deal.

That being said, you may have a chance at life. It wouldn't be the first time Usiel negated a death Good luck!

[👺 Usiel]

So here's the thing.

TP really doesn't matter, what matters is the Class Levels. You are B Class, she is S Class. It doesn't matter how much TP she has, she is still "S" Class.

Now, I WAS going to void the death because I was under the assumption that you were "D" Class and you didn't attack first. However you are "B" Class which makes you death enabled.

Yes I personally didn't like the character was killed, however I can understand why she did that. If you read her bio you could get an understanding why her character did that.

Now for the post that you did, you didn't do anything. You didn't try to stop her, you didn't try to reason or anything. You just took the hit. You didn't try to stop the attacks.

You are a "B" Class TaiJutsu Specialist. She is an "S" Class Non TaiJutsu Specialist. She has 9 movements, you have 8 movements.

Yes she has 12,000 TP but that does not affect her movements nor her Handseals. Yes she may have high bonuses to her GenJutsus and Saves, however there are several things one can be done. You got Shunshin, earth techniques and other things. You could have stopped the attack before happening by doing an interrupt. You also didn't take a die roll which could still get you to get out. Sure unlikely if you got hit but still possible.

I would give some kind of leeway but you've been here since 07' You should know the rules of intros. If you did your intro correctly by stating the items you had you would have been able to stop her through your explosive means as well.

You didn't try, you asked for "something dangerous" she tried to interact with your character first, you ignored her character, so she acted in accordance to her character.

Also do not suspect that her character was after your money. Her character may not care about money. If it was the Doctor, ya that may be something to worry about because I need maybe at least 24 million ryo, but he's also Lawful Good so he wouldn't do that.

I'm sorry for what happened but I will not void the death as reasons stated above.

["The Titan" Bartholomeus]

Exactly why I made this complaint for, everyone, including the admin a chance to kick me. About to is a good as not. Thanks for nothing.

[|Ayame Unbound|]

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She made no move to attack though. Despite being pissed from her previous interaction she just tried to converse. Erinyes likes interesting people:

"Well, well. What do we have here?" She asked, cocking her head to the side and allowing her silvery hair to cascade over one amethyst eye.

Now she was pretty much ignored. Your character speaks to himself while ignoring her. She responds as per her character. Incredulous over being ignored, and with a Genjutsu. She enjoys messing with people with Genjutsu. I played by the rules here. I let you know I was requesting a BM, which I did, so the rolls could be done and the battle overseen.

You posted again however taking the hit, doing nothing to try and stop it. If you look at the bio as well you can see what she hates above all else: Weakness. By not even trying to avoid or stop the attack that painted weakness in her eyes. Which in turn leads to the PM I sent you. I understand what you're asking but above all I role play my characters as what they would do and what would happen to them, not simply what I as a person want to do.

Its the same reason Kana retired. I did not want to retire her but that's what her character would've done. That's why Mayu is a soul caster. It makes no sense for her character but per IC actions that's what happened.

And to be honest she could really care less about money. She's not really an item user and thus has very little use for it.

I'm really sorry that you feel like this is some personal vendetta or spill over from my real life but I assure you that is not the case. In fact my real life is going quite well so I can assure you that nothing of that sort led me to do this.

I feel like your big complaint here is that I did this while being a Head Moderator. Am I not entitled to the same role play as everyone else? Am I not allowed to follow the ideals and actions of my characters and play them as such because that's who the character is? This is pretty much my first time playing a character that would even consider an evil act and as such I want to play that to its fullest. My position as HM shouldn't stop me from being able to do that.[/ul][/font]

[Runeska]

The only thing I'll point out is that in your "attempt" at interacting, you're doing so from well over 60 feet away since your distance is 20 meters away. If it were me in that situation trying to reach out to someone, I'd have either yelled to be heard, giving someone ample warning to respond, or stepped a lot closer to be logically heard, especially if there was no violence initially intended. So, it's not that you're being "ignored" it's that, unless one of you wants to say that your character is yelling, it really seems like you're talking to yourself, something plenty of characters do here.

In his shoes, if I were him, I'd have been straining to hear you say that bit of dialogue, and would have had to inquire about you OOCly to make sure you were talking out loud and to me before ICly deciding whether or not I'd heard you.

So at best, he's dead because of a misunderstanding, as I don't think he'd literally ignore you while you're clearly interacting with him. That, and apparently your character was upset before even meeting him (work around customers who are like that all the time, totally understandable). I mean, 20 meters away to me is not interacting unless you're having a yelling match.

At worst, it does look like you only entered to kill him and without reason. You had a one liner of dialogue that I probably wouldn't have given too much note to, then used an attack that spans 100's of meters and can't be detected before hand because most gens are instant affect. Not really sure there was anything to react to aside from the one liner.

But you say that's the way your character's personality is, so there's not much to argue. It's still a head scratching "wow" reflex imo due to the very limited interaction to violence ratio. And that's the thing to me that... comes across wrong.


-My 2 cents

[Zetsumei]

Jul 21, 2015 19:50:32 GMT -7 Runeska said:

The only thing I'll point out is that in your "attempt" at interacting, you're doing so from well over 60 feet away since your distance is 20 meters away. If it were me in that situation trying to reach out to someone, I'd have either yelled to be heard, giving someone ample warning to respond, or stepped a lot closer to be logically heard, especially if there was no violence initially intended. So, it's not that you're being "ignored" it's that, unless one of you wants to say that your character is yelling, it really seems like you're talking to yourself, something plenty of characters do here.

In his shoes, if I were him, I'd have been straining to hear you say that bit of dialogue, and would have had to inquire about you OOCly to make sure you were talking out loud and to me before ICly deciding whether or not I'd heard you.

So at best, he's dead because of a misunderstanding, as I don't think he'd literally ignore you while you're clearly interacting with him. That, and apparently your character was upset before even meeting him (work around customers who are like that all the time, totally understandable). I mean, 20 meters away to me is not interacting unless you're having a yelling match.

At worst, it does look like you only entered to kill him and without reason. You had a one liner of dialogue that I probably wouldn't have given too much note to, then used an attack that spans 100's of meters and can't be detected before hand because most gens are instant affect. Not really sure there was anything to react to aside from the one liner.

But you say that's the way your character's personality is, so there's not much to argue. It's still a head scratching "wow" reflex imo due to the very limited interaction to violence ratio. And that's the thing to me that... comes across wrong.


-My 2 cents

I highly doubt that, dude. I, and others, have had conversations from 20 meters or more before, it's a Super common thing here. we all consider our characters peak human condition unless otherwise stated. People have heard gravel crunching from that distance in a noisier surrounding. Hell, even if he couldn't make out the words he would still have heard someone speak and could very easily have turned his head and considered the person. To me, it doesn't seem like a misunderstanding and is blatantly ignoring her.


Also, Raven, we are not here to kick you. you are voicing a complaint and we are responding to it. Without malice.

[Tieren]

With all that's been said, I'm locking this thread, but not without issuing a 33% warning to you Raven. The fact of that matter is, you posted this thread up specifically targeting Ayame because of her Head Moderator position, as though this would be different if she didn't have said position.

Then to add on "Knowing her, she wouldn't just leave" shows that you didn't even ask. You assumed that she would stay no matter what. And instead of trying to interact with her, you proceeded to ignore her, to which she acted as her character would.

Following that, I was asked to Battle Mod the thread. But when I looked and saw your post stating that you simply took the KO without even trying to defend it, that's when I posted that you were knocked out. Overall, this death to your character was brought upon you. Choosing to accept the death without a complaint such as this would have been one thing. It is this complaint thread that is maliciously targeting Ayame that is warranting the warning.

This thread is locked, your death has been approved, and you have been given a 33% Warning.