616 (Finally)

[Jimarai Kotetsu]

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[Jimarai Kotetsu]

Not .... a bad chapter. I'm glad it wasn't Sasuke dominated though, but curious what he's doing ... possibly going to Oro's old lair underneath Konoha?

[Frieza]

Poor Lee...

That's really all I have to say at the moment.

[Claus Sadojin]

Watch lee and Gai go 8th gate and kick ass.

[Ender]

8th gate with fox chakra that is. Those two would move faster then the speed of light for sure. Really, I don't see the point of showing sasuke for a single page. For that, they should've just waited for the next issue and shown more of what he's doing.

Also, has anyone noticed that Madara and Obito were just watching as the ten tails was being attacked? Makes me think they have an Ace that they're waiting to use.

[Uchiha Satoshi]

Sooooo now the Kyuubi can hand out his chakra at will and the Naras knew this? Yea...kind of a stretch there. Also, wasn't it previously established that nobody but Naruto can handle the Kyuubi chakra because it would kill them? Continuity doesn't seem to be Kishi's forte at all.

[ninjaparty]

As much as I hate Shikaku for not being in the manga very much there are some reasons why things in this chapter turned out the way they did:

1) Shikaku is the father of a genius and equally seen as a planner of the war tactics for this particular war. Therefore, it is possible for him to have some ability to grasp what a person can do with their capabilities quickly.

2) He has been mentally linked to Naruto and a few others throughout the chapters prior to this fight during the course of the war. Naruto had clones running all over the place during this time trying to get rid fo Zetsu clones. Therefore, he could have gotten some capability of what Kyuubi could do if he had happened to view the battles on the war field through someone who was watching Naruto fight.

3) Kyuubi has spent probably three chapters now, maybe more like five, meditating. In meditating he has calmed himself and therefore his chakra. He has also done what appears to be a full merge with Naruto in a perfected tailed beast form for at least 10 chapters easily. Naruto and he therefore have achieved a combination effect that could likely reduce the dangerousness of his chakra. Also, because Naruto has probably spent a good deal of his own and the Kyuubi's fighting Obito already what he is giving out to his friends and their known families is way weaker chakra than anyone would probably be able to normally except if he gave it to them while his reserves are full. Don't expect this power boost to make everyone capable of beating the crud out of the tailed beast.

It feels like this boost will only be temporary in my opinion based on how Hinata is able to deflect the arms of the ten tails with simple air punches, yet it still is required for at least four Nara members to use their Kagemane no Jutsu to pin down the beast. Also if you look at the three Akichimichi in this chapter (one of the them being Choji), well you can see how well they're actually doing. They still get this boost from Naruto, but it does not look like it's evening the playing field much.

[Jimarai Kotetsu]

Yeah, what Itsuki said. Its the equivalent of Oranges at halftime during a soccer match. Just enough to pep them up to get them going again.

[dragonwriter]

All I have to say about this chapter other than that is Lee's moment in that chapter was kind of random. He could have cried after they have beaten up the Juubi. But I suppose he's the kind of guy to do that right in the moment. As for Sasuke, I don't think his entry in the chapter is too random. Kishimoto still kind of needs to keep his presence known elsewhere, so to have him show up for one page is fine. I would rather him show up on one page in a chapter rather than Karin since all she's doing still is trying to escape where she is I think.

Frankly, I'm beginning to see her as the most useless character in the series other than the fact that she can clearly see Naruto has two chakras (every character seems to know that now) and is an Uzumaki like her (nobody knows what that means except for her and a select few). To have her show up now would be stupid, but I bet she will just to stop people in the village of Konoha from attacking Sasuke possibly, those who remain anyway...

[Ishii Satou]

More than anything, I think we found out how fucking weak Naruto is compared to others. For her first time using fox chakra, hinata puts naruto out of his fucking league. So do the others. If Naruto wasn't all foxy, he'd sure be dead by now XD

[ninjaparty]

You're right... Just look at Naruto Wiki's data books. His skill level is currently surpassed or equal to three geniuses, an average girl, one puppet user, one Jinchuuriki, one taijutsu master, and a pregnant woman. There's plenty more whom can probably keep his abilities in check, but unfortunately Shikamaru actually isn't one of them, as I would have hoped personally. It may explain why his shadow jutsus only last two seconds against Naruto when he gets mad.

[Frieza]

Frankly, I'm beginning to see her as the most useless character in the series other than the fact that she can clearly see Naruto has two chakras (every character seems to know that now) and is an Uzumaki like her (nobody knows what that means except for her and a select few). To have her show up now would be stupid, but I bet she will just to stop people in the village of Konoha from attacking Sasuke possibly, those who remain anyway...

I wouldn't say that yet. Karin has done quite a lot in the series (comparing her with many other side characters), and may still have some importance because of her Uzumaki blood. She probably won't be appearing any time soon, but it would be foolish for Kishi to just ignore her.

More than anything, I think we found out how fucking weak Naruto is compared to others. For her first time using fox chakra, hinata puts naruto out of his fucking league. So do the others. If Naruto wasn't all foxy, he'd sure be dead by now XD

That's not necessarily true. Naruto still has techniques like the Shadow Clones and Rasengan, as well as the Sage Mode and ability to summon giant frogs whenever he wants (Speaking of that, why haven't we seen any summons recently? I would imagine that somebody would think "hey, maybe a giant animal would help in this situation!"). Now granted, I do agree that he is a little incompetent, but not to the degree that he would have been killed off by now.

I do think he relies on the Kyuubi too much though. Has there ever been a battle he's fought where the Kyuubi didn't contribute in any way? I honestly don't remember.

[ninjaparty]

The battle against Kiba where he farted in his face and also the battle on the very first mission with Tazuna where those two Mist ninjas up and tried to assassinate the man where he stood. It's not necessarily fair since Sasuke jumped in and saved his and Tazuna's butt. The small fight where he stopped those two thugs from attacking Inari is also one. But then, one does not see much of that fight. I do think he beat Kakuzu without the Kurama, but in order to do that he literally had to turn his Rasengan into the shinobi's equivalent of a small a-bomb. With that Wind Release: Rasenshuriken technique of his. I haven't seen him use that as much as his other techniques though anymore. I think though it's becuase he can use multiple rasengans at once and if he were to use it again he would nearly tear his arm off. That's what it's original drawback was.

Yet as of now, I doubt in his current state Naruto can have many drawbacks in terms of Bijuu Mode, except that it will run out of chakra in five minutes if used to its utmost extent. It's unfortunate at times I feel he can pull a near Goku styled fight. And ultimately, come out on top a lot of the time now.

[Frieza]

Jan 19, 2013 11:22:02 GMT -7 @ninjaparty said:

The battle against Kiba where he farted in his face and also the battle on the very first mission with Tazuna where those two Mist ninjas up and tried to assassinate the man where he stood. It's not necessarily fair since Sasuke jumped in and saved his and Tazuna's butt. The small fight where he stopped those two thugs from attacking Inari is also one. But then, one does not see much of that fight. I do think he beat Kakuzu without the Kurama, but in order to do that he literally had to turn his Rasengan into the shinobi's equivalent of a small a-bomb. With that Wind Release: Rasenshuriken technique of his. I haven't seen him use that as much as his other techniques though anymore. I think though it's becuase he can use multiple rasengans at once and if he were to use it again he would nearly tear his arm off. That's what it's original drawback was.

But none of those fights were really major battles (which is what I meant, but didn't clarify), save for the Kakuzu fight, which he had a lot of help in (but was that even his fight? I thought he was just helping out. But that was so long ago I can't remember it that well...).

But I've got to say that I enjoyed his fight with Kiba a lot. Probably because the Chunin Exam arc was just so good in my opinion.

Yet as of now, I doubt in his current state Naruto can have many drawbacks in terms of Bijuu Mode, except that it will run out of chakra in five minutes if used to its utmost extent. It's unfortunate at times I feel he can pull a near Goku styled fight. And ultimately, come out on top a lot of the time now.

I agree. It seems a lot of the fights in this arc have become something you might see in Dragon Ball: huge attacks, huge destruction, huge power. I remember the good ol' days when a ninja could be shown as powerful without all the flashy jutsu.

[dragonwriter]

I loved watching Sasuke try to tie Orochimaru to a tree to incinerate him, but then Orochimaru was like, "Well, I'll be damned... Someone I'm hunting actually has some skill. NOT!" And then he proceeded to do things like bite his neck, summon a giant snake, and gloat in the little boy's face.

Frankly, this show and manga should be called the Legend of Sasuke, like that one N64 Legend of Goemon, since now Sasuke's family and he have been the ones to one up the abilities of ninja and force Kishimoto to make some of the more ridiculous attacks some of these new ninjas have. For example, what the heck is Darui's Laser Circus? That's definitely not based off of any real ninja tools of worth or legends. Anyway, fortunately, this chapter hasn't had too many big "flashy" attacks, except Naruto running around spreading out his chakra and making it so everyone can one up the Juubi.

Frankly, the boy should be near death right now. He's had a good deal of chakra drained from him and I think he's running solely on the Kyuubi's chakra for this fight, yet Kyuubi does not have infinite chakra either. So let's see... A giant beast worth 7.5 other giant beasts vs. two giant beasts and an army of over 1000 ninjas. Who will win? Definitely not those ninjas...

Kishimoto should be a good sport and throw in a few evil pirates as the main villains just so that we can have the pirates vs. ninjas trope going on along with world domination.

"Naruto, I've never told you this, but... I.... Obito Uchiha... Have been forced to change the world because of pirates."

"WHAT?"

"Rin stole a pirate's lunch money and they Mist Shinobi to get it back. Now I'm going to kill Kakashi cause he was in on the plan. Just look at his eye patch!"

[Frieza]

Jan 19, 2013 16:55:28 GMT -7 @dragonwriter said:

Kishimoto should be a good sport and throw in a few evil pirates as the main villains just so that we can have the pirates vs. ninjas trope going on along with world domination.

They already did that in the anime. And it sucked.