An Appeal System

[Coal]

So, as you all probably know, myself and a number of people are permabanned from the C-box, but not the site. Solid. However, it does get kinda boring not being able to communicate easily with others. I have a friggin' 7 way message going right now, that's how bad it is. haha. PMs don't get checked that often and it's slow, like sending snail mail.

Anyway, back on topic, I was thinking there should be some kind of appeal system. Even prison has an appeal system. Life sentences get turned into 20 years all the time. Obviously not to say turn the perma-ban into 20 years. lol. But I've been banned since...March? I don't really remember. Just a friggin' long time, and it'd be cool to be able to appeal, show ourselves as rehabbed members. The ones that stick around anyway. Put us on a probation or something and if we break our probation before we finish our probationary time, then a site perma-ban, kinda like prison. You know? Anyway, that's my two cent suggestion. Discuss or just say no, it's all good to me. haha.

[geninjames]

I like this idea

[👺 Usiel]

You've been banned, and then unbanned from the Cbox before though. It's a revolving door. The same thing will happen as before. I'm sorry but no.

[Coal]

Except this last time was actually different, considering I wasn't even in the C-box. Granted, you maintain the right to ban however you see fit, but perspective wise I hadn't broken a C-box rule at all. But, this is not just for me, but for anyone banned from the C-box. Additionally, to use such a statement that it will always happen is to say a criminal is always a criminal, or someone from the hood is always someone from the hood. By that logic, you say it's impossible to better oneself. However, I'd like to think that is untrue, as I have more than demonstrated that I have been bettering myself. As you very well know, I could type in the C-box or show up here whenever I wish, ban or no ban, but I choose to follow the mandate you set up months ago. If that's not a sign of change, then I don't know what is.

[It'll get a little personal, but I'm okay to talk about it now]
After my attempted suicide a month ago, I knew that I needed to make an emotional change, and so I did and have been. It was while I was bleeding out sitting on the tub in the upstairs bathroom, my girlfriend staunching the flow of blood from my left wrist, that I realized if I didn't change, I would definitely succeed in killing myself the next time. So I've been changing.

Granted whether you care or not is up to you, but people can change and reform. I'm doing it. Others can do it. Give them a chance to prove it. That's what the probation period is for. You can evaluate them and determine if, by the end of their probation time, they should be allowed to continue among the normal members with privileges. If any of those on probation mess up, its the door. Pure and simple.

[Coal]

Well I suppose that is that. Good day to you, Admin. You may lock this.

[👺 Usiel]

People can change, I do believe people can change. Thing is, if a person does something bad enough, like let's say they act up at a job, and they did something horrible at that job, they can change but the chances of them getting that job again is probably not going to happen. Same happens with places where people go to have fun. If a person was a familiar there at that place but then did something or did multiple things that build up, they may not be welcomed to that place anymore. Hell I'll give you an example. A person was banned here permanently. Someone so bad that they were deemed "Ya no more". Then they continued to cause problems. Years later they could could come back and be like "Oh don't worry I'm a different person" My response would be "Hey that's great, I'm happy for you but you're just not welcomed here."

Same applies to the cbox. Maybe one day I'll open it up, and allow a person or two to post in the Cbox, but it's not when they want it, and it's not within "a date" as a "parole hearing".

[~Emi~]

This is just a suggestion; but what if we implemented a vote for people that has been permabanned from the C-box but have been acting good or really good for like a year with an obvious personality change. On the vote (started by the headstaff when they deem the person changed enough to be reliable) if the banned person gets one vote against them (a no) he/she remains banned, but if 10+ says yes without any no, the person is allowed back on.

Maybe?

[Coal]

Well you'll run it how you want, since it's yours to run as you see fit, after all. My suggestion was just a suggestion, but you guys are welcome to continue discussing it or working on other possibilities if you like. I have nothing more to offer the topic. Good luck on whatever happens with it.

[Dr. Neuro, RN]

I see no further reason to discuss this. Heero has laid down his verdict. Locked.