Sasuke is the God of Naruto.

[Meteora]

I was about to say that.

I love tools.

[marth6789]

helios said:

Well, if you wanna the play the game of "Who's better without the overrated power-up", the best ninja in the series would have to be no one else but Rock Lee.

Sasuke, without his Sharingan, would be weak. Naruto without his bijuu would be weak, but not quite as weak because, as it was stated in the manga, his natural chakra reserves themselves are enormous, even without the Kyuubi's chakra. Itachi would be weak Kakashi would be weak Neji would be weak, everyone who relies on a bloodlimit or demon wouldn't be very strong.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if Rock Lee had, say, the Baykugan or Sharingan he would be the strongest Ninja in the series simply due to the fact that he's no slouch of a fighter without using any ninjutsu at all, rivaling people who use stuff like the Sahringan. If he were to add ninjutsu to his arsenal of atatcks he'd be unstoppable.

With how much he trains he'd probably learn Rasengan in a weekend, lol.

Also people seem to forget this, if naruto had no bijuu then the 4th would be still alive, which means the greatest ninja ever would be teaching his son. Coupled with his moms powerful techniques and whatever jutsu's his clan had, naruto would probably be stronger without the kyuubi.

[marth6789]

Also some of you need to brush up on your shippuden, kakuzu didnt kill the first. Also sasukes growth rate is unnatural as comfirmed by sakura and tsunade. They have freakin kabuto, the dude who made tsunade in her prime look like a noob. Kabuto gave sasuke growth hormoes probably. Also sasukes sharingan simply matured in a different way, like kakashi's. Sasuke's sharingan has powers the others dont have and vice versa.

[marth6789]

Also again, as you people should know certain jutsus work on certain people. Madara had the power of the kyuubi at a point 1st hoakge can make bijuu useless, get it?

Neji's jyuuken would be pretty useless against kakashi who is a technique specialist. Also kakuzu didnt defeat the first hokage.
naruto is still the god.
/thread

[Buccha Akimichi]

sawsgay is the fag of naruto =D

(no mean to offend anyone)

[👺 Usiel]

Stop like triple posting this is a verbal on that. Lol keep it in one post.

Oh yeah my bad ummm Kakuzu and the First Fought, nothing was confirmed that the killed the first.

[uchit444]

aggh, you people act like naruto got WAY to shafted! during his training time with jiraiya, he got up to three tails of kyuubi while keeping self control. I'd say that's pretty impressive, THREE TAILS of the powerful demon fox. four tails naruto curb stomped jiraiya and orochimaru. I bet his summoning has improved, as we've seen no summoning from him in shippuden.

Jiraiya has that frog to give naruto some super dooper key. After that, sasughey will get slaughtered. What exactly could Sasuke to to four tails naruto? He took a kusunagi (tis teh stufe erv legendz) to the chest. Then i remembered sasuke could supress kyuubi power, damn.

[fina]

polaski said:

How many fights has Sasuke won without his Sharingan compared to with it? Let's see.. he beat some no-name Ninja in the prelims of the Chuunin exam.. uh..

Actually, how many times has Sasuke lost, even with his Sharingan, when it counts? Sharingan Sasuke lost to Haku while Kyuubi Naruto succeeded.Sharingan Sasuke lost to Gaara while regular Naruto beat transformed Gaara, then went Kyuubi and beat him and the Shukaku. And let's not forget that this was after he defeated Hyuuga "Best Genin in Konoha I'm a genius lol" Neji in a fight. Sharingan Sasuke lost to that homo with the lightsaber in the Tea Arc while normal Naruto succeeded. Kyuubi Naruto > Sharingan Sasuke and normal Naruto has more and better feats then Sasuke altogether. Naruto only lost when they ofught because A) He was not fighting with a killing intent, meaning he wasn't going all out, while Sasuke was, and B) In the final clash Naruto aimed for his headband and Sasuke aimed for his chest.

However in Shppuden Sasuke is much, much better. But in the original series Naruto has him beat in almost every way, with Sasuke having a slight edge in clear headedness.Naruto tends to rush in blindly over and over, and then eventually learns from his mistakes and WTFpwnz his enemy.

You're a genius!

[akiba]

Feb 29, 2008 21:02:48 GMT -7 @uchit444 said:

Then i remembered sasuke could supress kyuubi power, damn.

And that was the point that when the Sharingan became idioticly broken. The Sharingan is the freaking swiss army knife of Kekkai Genkai, you can just imagine the fight between Naruto and Sasuke

Naruto: SUPER CRAZY RASENGAN THING!
Sasuke: Sorry, I just got an upgrade to my Sharingan, it now can stop anything with Chakra in.
Naruto: *Reports Sasuke for God-modding*

[N I R A S H I]

XDDDD

Wow. Thatis true. I don't think we've seen many other characters in hard, long battles like we have Sasuke. Since like 340 to now, every chapter has basically revolved around Sasuke and all he has done. He's gotten the shine for most of these chapters. He's had Sasuke v. Oro and Sasuke v. Itachi and Sasuke v. Deidara, three long hard battles, so I guess we saw his best.

All Naruto has had was, Kakuzu v. Hidan really and much wasn't seen there, since Shika shined mostly. I think Kishi plans on bringing more battles and things, then we can really see what Naruto and the others have been doing.

[👺 Usiel]

Naruto officially has no chance.

[baku]

With the fourth eye, I believe he will end up killing himself, but yeah, Naruto, or any other person for that matter, has a chance, he is too overpowered now.

[Axcel]

Nah, now that he has more time because of Orochimaru, all he needs to do is whore that 1000 bunshin training. One week was like what, 20 something years?

[Itzu]

I posted this so long ago.

Looks like Sasuke is ascending to god-hood.

He defeated Itachi, which alone made me quit reading the series.

Then when someone told me that he got the Mangekyo, I almost shat myself.

And it turned out to be true...

Screw you saucegay, how much more can you cheat? There was one thing you couldn't get, and that was the Mangekyo, but a poke to the forehead gave you that and Amaterasu? Totally fair.

On another note, I'm pretty sure Kakuzu said something about beating the First, oh well

[Seito Uchiha]

Well, I'm unsure if this point was presented before, though consider Kabuto is with Orochimaru. They've probably drugged, enhanced, altered, refined, and pretty much cheated for him to achieve new abilities. Making his ability to learn, attributes, and overall everything far superior than the rest of Naruto. Besides, i'm sure Orochimaru master of techniques had something to help his training, not to mention Sasuke's sharingan... and his motivation to kill his brother.

Naruto on the other hand, learned better use of his clones(somewhat)... Learned how to sneak attack... Learned about Genjutsu... Had his fox released a little more and learned how to control up to the third tail... Big Rasengan... and elemental rasengan... I mean Naruto is an idiot... How much do you really expect him to learn in that time, he'd be hopeless without Kakashi and the Toad-Sage.