Dispute in exams

[Ryoushi, Vulture]

Name: Ryoushi Sakurai
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Type of Complaint: Misunderstanding
Insident Link: www.narutoforumrp.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=landofthesea&action=display&thread=38889&page=2
Complaint:

To be claimed dead for the reason I am is simply wrong wrong wrong.

According to examiner 4, I am dead because Jimmu, my partner could not detect an attack headed for his partner. A fair and legitimate defense, but let's consider the fact that we are chained together, without possibly being more then four feet from each other.

Jimmu's character intended to use many jutsu, and with it; many handseals. If he is using many handseals then that means his chain cant be stretched out the full four feet. He needs slack on the chain to have an adequate amount of space with his arms to do handseals. This would mean we are even closer then four feet together.

So where am I going by pointing out how close we are? Simple: He would've been effected by the attack to, in some shape or form, some how, some way. Even if it wasn't nearly as lethal, even if it just barely knicked him, when he is less then four feet from me his warriors mind can in fact sense the oncoming attack.

But would I rely solely on my partner to get me out of such a situation? Hell no, for reasons exactly like this one. Which is why I specifically stated in my post

The Sakurai eye can track trails of chakra from jutsu weeks after the jutsu itself was used. So for a couple of ninja standing right next to each other to do jutsu, the chakra trails firing off of them would be like a great illuminus flair to Ryoushi. But before he could even open his mouth to warn his partner, the master of reflexes had made them levitate high in the sky

This means that if Jimmu's warrior mind failed, then I personally would warn him of an incoming attack. Once again since we're chained together, and standing on the same floating disc, this means his responsibility is movement and dodging. Such a warning of incoming attack weather it come from my mouth or his mind would result in the dodge that rightfully should have occurred.

In summary this death is wrong because;

[/i] then four feet from each other, evidenced by his use of handseals.

2. If we are less then four feet from eachother, standing on the same metallic disc of his own creation, then this jutsu will affect him in some way, shape or form. It may not be nearly as lethal, it may not even do any significant damage at all, but if something is aimed that close to him, then his warrior's mind is quite prepared to react.

3. If by freak chance Jimmu's technique failed, then I made it very clear that Ryoushi was prepared to warn him personally. However Jimmu was made aware of the attack, he shouldn't have any reason to not dodge. I have made it clear his warriors mind should not fail, and I have made it clear I was prepared just in case.[/ul][/size][/blockquote]Solution:

I want the last post by the examiner 4 poofed away, and I want things reconsidered rationally. It would be really good if I could get a second, third or fourth opinion from the other examiners on this, because honestly I feel my examiner is incapable. If the head examiner would like to put his/her two cents in that would be very appreciated too.

I've already had issues with examiner 4 in PMs regarding this round of the exams, but last time I brought up thoughts (all in the form of constructive criticism, while taking note to remain clean and calm in my PMs) he disagreed with, I was then told

You f**k**g Dumbass

Several other uses of profanity occurred, and while not wrong, it obviously goes to show the examiner is quite angered with me personally. One round later, the examiner pronounces me irrationally dead. This leads me to believe the examiner has a bias based on personal anger with me, the "fucking dumbass"

[Kuro]

Wait so let me get this straight. You died but your partner didn't.. and you want your partner to die with you? If so.. dude that's just low.


Second off examiners are the final call on your life in the Thread. If you choose to constantly argue with them of course they'll probably get a bit annoyed with you. Depending on the person profanity is just a form of communication and not meant in any real fowl meaning. I know a guy who literally can't go three sentences without swearing is some way/shape or form.


I mean we could probably review the thread and see where you lay, but remember don't let that tan title go to your head and think because you're a battle moderator you know everything about battles and can't be killed. Not saying you're going that way but I don't want you to even get started down that path. As to the whole review that's really up to Head Mods and Admin. Mods and Assistants could feel free to give you their opinion on dead or alive but only a Headmod or Admin could over turn your death.


Edited:

On a side note adding in, you're partner has already complained about this event, why are you cluttering up complaints with the exact same situation? Tenkai told Okami to talk to the other Examiners. I would do that if I were you.. also talk with your partner OOC cuz that would have saved you time from making this complaint and me repeating what Tenkai said.

[👺 Usiel]

Agreed, contact another Examiner and see what is decided, leave the rest of us out of it.

[fina]

lol Kuro I think you misread his post.

[--Arata]

I guess I see where you're coming from Rryoushi. But if second sense is used for the person with it, then he couldn't automatically know when an attack is coming for you, he'd be on the edge, waiting for an attack to come to him; this in return would be the only way that he could have led on to projectiles being thrown. It was a senbon, very small in appearance so it'd be hard to notice in the first place.

Okami also detailed that it was coming for you, and that he infact sensed it was coming for you when in fact he also stated that his direction was that of the rain ninja whilst his animal companion had been the one to be worried on the mist ninja. You; in your post; had no real statement as to say that you would have dodged the senbon this way if in fact okami had not taken care of it. Sure, your bloodlimit has the ability to do so, but because it was unstated, it looks bad on your part, not the examiner.

Also, I see that Jimmu has used a shadow clone [cuts his chakra in half. is carrying 1000+ animal companion, you, and himself upon metallic discs = even more concentration/chakra. created clones to go in a forest [5 rock] - b rank; constant chakra flow to keep them alive = more chakra/concentration.] and other techniques. His concentration can't possibly be in all those positions at once, and even at A rank, to juggle team rain; your clones; metallic discs carrying over 1500 lbs; team mist; and on the other hand, second sense which is used for YOUR survival, it'd be hard to see....happening.

Hard choice...

[Axcel]

Mar 16, 2009 20:25:22 GMT -7 Kuro said:

Wait so let me get this straight. You died but your partner didn't.. and you want your partner to die with you? If so.. dude that's just low.


Second off examiners are the final call on your life in the Thread. If you choose to constantly argue with them of course they'll probably get a bit annoyed with you. Depending on the person profanity is just a form of communication and not meant in any real fowl meaning. I know a guy who literally can't go three sentences without swearing is some way/shape or form.


I mean we could probably review the thread and see where you lay, but remember don't let that tan title go to your head and think because you're a battle moderator you know everything about battles and can't be killed. Not saying you're going that way but I don't want you to even get started down that path. As to the whole review that's really up to Head Mods and Admin. Mods and Assistants could feel free to give you their opinion on dead or alive but only a Headmod or Admin could over turn your death.


Edited:

On a side note adding in, you're partner has already complained about this event, why are you cluttering up complaints with the exact same situation? Tenkai told Okami to talk to the other Examiners. I would do that if I were you.. also talk with your partner OOC cuz that would have saved you time from making this complaint and me repeating what Tenkai said.

>_>

Did you even read his complaint man? Everything you said was like completely irrelevant save for the fact his partner make a complaint as well. He is saying his death is unjustified and stated why. The chuunin examiner basically voided his partners post and declared him dead using illogical reasoning. No where did he state that his partner should die as well, in fact hes saying he shouldn't be dead in the first place.

Trying to justify calling someone "You fucking dumbass" as a form of communication is a bit ridiculous don't you think? Yes people say swears every other word (some people), but not like that lol.

@heero: I agree that the other chuunin examiners should be the one to deal with this specific situation rather than staff themselves. But whoever that chuunin examiner is is also a staff member and if they're incapable of acting rationally and fairly then they need to be dealt with accordingly. Right?

[Kuro]

Mar 16, 2009 20:46:46 GMT -7 Axcel said:

Mar 16, 2009 20:25:22 GMT -7 Kuro said:

Wait so let me get this straight. You died but your partner didn't.. and you want your partner to die with you? If so.. dude that's just low.


Second off examiners are the final call on your life in the Thread. If you choose to constantly argue with them of course they'll probably get a bit annoyed with you. Depending on the person profanity is just a form of communication and not meant in any real fowl meaning. I know a guy who literally can't go three sentences without swearing is some way/shape or form.


I mean we could probably review the thread and see where you lay, but remember don't let that tan title go to your head and think because you're a battle moderator you know everything about battles and can't be killed. Not saying you're going that way but I don't want you to even get started down that path. As to the whole review that's really up to Head Mods and Admin. Mods and Assistants could feel free to give you their opinion on dead or alive but only a Headmod or Admin could over turn your death.


Edited:

On a side note adding in, you're partner has already complained about this event, why are you cluttering up complaints with the exact same situation? Tenkai told Okami to talk to the other Examiners. I would do that if I were you.. also talk with your partner OOC cuz that would have saved you time from making this complaint and me repeating what Tenkai said.

>_>

Did you even read his complaint man? Everything you said was like completely irrelevant save for the fact his partner make a complaint as well. He is saying his death is unjustified and stated why. The chuunin examiner basically voided his partners post and declared him dead using illogical reasoning. No where did he state that his partner should die as well, in fact hes saying he shouldn't be dead in the first place.

Trying to justify calling someone "You f**k**g dumbass" as a form of communication is a bit ridiculous don't you think? Yes people say swears every other word (some people), but not like that lol.

@heero: I agree that the other chuunin examiners should be the one to deal with this specific situation rather than staff themselves. But whoever that chuunin examiner is is also a staff member and if they're incapable of acting rationally and fairly then they need to be dealt with accordingly. Right?

Focus on the "if so" axcel... i went on to a different stance in the entirety of the post. So just chill on the hey Kuro didn't read his post.. because I did. I told him that Chuunin Examiners are the final call. Yes they are staff, but in the form of Examiners for the sake of secrecy. We could handle them accordingly but what would that be? A stern slap on the wrists with a rolled up newspaper? Saying "you f**k**g dumbass" would be in tern baiting, but hey we don't know the whole story on that, we don't know what Ryoushi was sending the Examiner, so it would need a full scale investigation which personally I see as a total waste of time on something so small that is just gonna get out of hand.

So instead of just posting agreeing with Heero, why don't we let the Chuunin Examiners handle this from this point forward. Because what you basically stated was already previously stated creating redundancy in your post.




Sorry if my response to you axcel comes off as a challenge or anything like that because it's not, but if you have issues with my response hit me up with a PM or on YIM instead of crowding here, please and thank you ^_^.

[Tenkai]

*shakes head*

Tenkai is sad..I have sent a PM to the examiners, it will be dealt with, and Axcel -- what you said will be kept in mind once this issue has been resolved.

[Uchiha Satoshi]

Since this is being handled by the examiners, I'm locking this thread.