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[Raika Tatsu]

Alright, so I found this jutsu and it has me slightly confused, so I wanted to clarify.

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Raiton – Goudatsu Boshuu no Jutsu (Thunder Style – Illusion Shattering Technique)
Rank: A
Skill: Ninjutsu/Supplementary
Effect: Allows the user to effectively break a genjutsu by shocking themselves. Once they acknowledge being in the illusion, the body automatically shocks itself once, creating enough pain and discomfort to bring the user back to reality. Automatic unless the user wills against it.
Special: --
Drawback: Does not work on ‘S’ ranked genjutsu. Must prepare jutsu beforehand by casting seals and waiting, resulting in initial casting fee, as well as lingering chakra in one's body taking up an 'C' ranked amount of chakra per turn until the actual shock occurs, which then translates to 'A' ranked chakra consumption. Once the user gets shocked, this tech must be reactivated. Cannot feed the user's mastery over Raiton, if they have achieved it. Can only be used five times per thread; any more, and the shocks will induce a fatal heart attack onto the user. This is not automatic, as the user must know they are in an illusion before breaking it. The user’s body will be numb and slow to respond the turn immediately after breaking from the illusion, slowing down their natural speed almost by half for the immediate turn after. If done when surrounded by flammable/easily shockable items, the user could hurt themselves severely.
Description: Whenever the user has been haunted by a severe illusion, they can acknowledge their fate and kiss their behinds away, or they can do something about it. In this case, the Raiton user has trained himself to shock his entire system whenever they detect an illusion present, bringing forth enough pain to snap them free from the illusion. Although the technique leaves them feeling hurt after, they can activate this at any time for the cost of a ‘C’ ranked jutsu. Careful however; shock yourself too much, and you could get hurt!
Limit: Raiton Release

It sounds like you have to cast the jutsu before getting caught in any genjutsu. This seems a little ridiculous (no offense) due to the amount of chakra needed in all. Also, it almost makes the tech useless unless you know in advance that either the person you're fighting is going to use gen or you know when he's about to use one during the battle, which in either case sounds like it would involve some unfair Metagaming. It would make more sense to be able to acivate this tech once you realize you might be in a gen and it then take a turn--for prep I guess--before hitting you with the shock, or something like that, which still takes at the very least two A ranks of chakra and maybe one C.

If I'm wrong in this way of thinking, please explain, I'm not unreasonable and will accept if I'm wrong. Staff would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[Soul]

Basically, as you use this technique, you pull yourself out of any genjutsu A-Rank & lower instead of having to have someone send chakra through your body. When used in preparation, it said C-Rank chakra is used per post. If you activated for two turns, this it would be like you used an B-Rank technique. Four turns would be an A-Rank & in addition, if this technique would be activated on your fourth turn, it would be like an S-Rank technique.

If your wondering about the chakra system, every rank you use of a technique, it increases as if you used a higher rank of a jutsu.

EX. If you use two D-Rank techniques, its like you used a C-Rank. Two C-Ranks is equalivent to a B-Rank. Two be ranks is equalivent to A-Rank, etc.

Hope this helped you out...

[Raika Tatsu]

That does help, but my question was more towards whether this tech can ONLY be used in preparation or whether it could be used upon realization that you were caught in a genjutsu. Thank you though, still helpful.

[Soul]

It says it in the description, you have to prepare the technique before hand.

[← KIRA →]

He's correct, except for the chakra cost part. It will drain a C rank per turn, and once you activate it it will drain an A rank that turn. Anything else?

[Deleted]

*blink* Wait, you can't use this while already affected by a Genjutsu? It just says "Must prepare jutsu beforehand by casting seals and waiting, resulting in initial casting fee". I personally take that as long as you pay both the initial chakra fee and the secondary shock fee then it is fine. Both chakra costs are an A rank, which means you've spent a minimum of an S rank to break free of a Genjutsu that is A rank or below. Honestly, I have no clue why being in a Genjutsu would prevent you from electrocuting yourself to cause enough pain to break a Genjutsu.

I'm not arguing, I'm just confused >.<

[Soul]

Reason why is because most genjutsu leaves you immobilized, so you cannot move whatsoever. Just like when Sasuke & Itatchi was fighting each other with genjutsu & zetsu was watching. Neither one of them moved an inch until sasuke broke free of Tsukiyomi.

Kira: What I was explaining was the chakra description part, wheras how much chakra you would be using equilivent to the rounds you wait.

EX. Four C-Ranks=A-Rank+the casting fee is A-Rank which= S-Rank.

EDIT: If you wait more than four turns its an S+A rank jutsu, so about to two S-Ranks.

[Raika Tatsu]

Would that then mean that you could cast this jutsu during a genjutsu that didn't immobilize you, like many of the charm ones?

[Soul]

Yea, you could, but you still have to know you are in a genjutsu.

[Raika Tatsu]

Of course, there would have to some realistic reason to figure it out. And I understand the immobilization part, that makes sense, which makes the tech make a lot more sense. Either way, guess the best thing to do is learn the gates to fight gen. lol. If no one has anything to add, this can be closed.

[← KIRA →]

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