Naruto 618

[Frieza]

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[Frieza]

Hiruzun! <3

[Noota]

HOLY FUCK!

[ninjaparty]

Finally, Orochimaru forces people to get to the meat of the story. What I don't understand is how Sasuke got six Zetsu clones put inside him to guard against his traitorous actions. I don't remember Madara a.k.a Obito necessarily applying that kind of thing to him, unless he did it while he was unconscious when they first met. I can truly feel this was a really good chapter, but what bothers me is that the villagers in the Leaf village did not take much notice of them. I am 100% sure they are within the confines of the village, so I assume they still have some guards there who might say, "Hey, you all, with the cloaks. Don't go wandering like that... We need to inspect you."

However, if it's just that they haven't caught onto Sasuke being in the village due to such low manpower I'm fine with that. After all, if he had to, he and that rest of his group could rip everyone in that village to shreds; although, they probably won't. Good chapter though.

[Naota]

Could have been done when Itachi's eyes were being implanted into him.

[yoshinee]

If everyone who was sealed is now released, do you guys remember what ELSE was sealed in there?
Maybe.. lets say.. half of the kyuubi's chakra?
Where has this gone now?

[Beltran]

I'm just kinda pissed they pulled this out of their ass. I was kinda hoping for the Hokages to be trapped inside the Shinigami forever. Maybe this will lead to a real meeting of Naruto with his father though. Highly doubt it though, Maybe Sasuke will learn the truth from The Third though.

[dubcheck]

T_T.....You know what...I'll take it. After what I've seen so far...I'll gladly accept this new spin on things. I mean other then doing something concerning the actual six paths, we are really...running out of true options anyway...so...

[heretorp]

Minato wins. GG.

[Draven]

Naruto vs. 1-4 Hokage

NARUTO NO BSjutsu ftw

[Nyu]

LMAO 4 kages added into the fight? This should be interesting.

[Frieza]

Jan 30, 2013 11:27:47 GMT -7 @ninjaparty said:

However, if it's just that they haven't caught onto Sasuke being in the village due to such low manpower I'm fine with that.

Why? The fact that the four actually thought they could walk right into a major village with bounties on their heads without a problem is just ludicrous and lazy on Kishi's part. There are so many things wrong with this that it baffles me that Kishi thought this was okay to put in.

I'm just kinda pissed they pulled this out of their ass. I was kinda hoping for the Hokages to be trapped inside the Shinigami forever.

Remember; no one really dies for good in Shonen manga. xD

Minato wins. GG.

What do you mean?

[ninjaparty]

Well, frankly, I see nothing wrong with them being able to walk into the village because if said village were low on man power who do you think would defend it. I personally think it would only be left to a few Jonin if that, no, actually probably none of them there cause they participated in WAR.

Weird, Armed, Resistance. Against the World's second most powerful and first most powerful shinobis. Why is it weird armed resistance? I don't know... Because I'm wondering now if everyone in the manga has illogical reasons for this war now. The entire set of fighting we've seen to now is based on stopping one man's greatest desires, which as we know seem to be almost to easy for him to obtain right now.

But do you know what that means? Well, it means Sasuke can calk walk those people too if they say, "Hey, you can't be here!" and then he shrugs and pulls out his Amaterasu on them. Why? Like usual, it's a nearly unstoppable jutsu that could burn down the village and everyone in it. As it stands, if Sasuke does not like what the Hokages have to say he will have won and gotten his revenge because he can now go into a raging fit of madness and get rid of the place he hates since he's in it. Orochimaru and the others won't stop him probably because they've seen to either taken interest in him or have followed him thus far. But why the guards haven't noticed him it's probably because...

1) They're lazy.

2) Sasuke and his friends entered the village through a secret passage! (Yeah!)

3) The man power for this war which is really a distraction for Sasuke to possibly get revenge has not ended. (Hm... Has he really given up his bad ways. There was that whole fight a couple chapters ago with Kabuto and Itachi, but now I'm afraid Kishimoto's nearly gone and wanted to erase that whole bit of work he did.)

What does this mean for the manga?

1) The entire back story of this entire series will appear starting next chapter.

2) Depending on how it's answered Sasuke will not like it or like it and then proceed to destroy his old home or not.

3) If Sasuke does that and someone manages to survive there then brings Naruto or someone else the information that can only mean one thing... A huge moral hit for the entire army and a reason for them all to give up.

Despite Naruto's ability to now give everyone he wants chakra. There's no way he could win if Sasuke decides to hold the village hostage after his little chat with the Hokages and announces it. And Madara's seemingly clear ability to fire a series of Bijuu bombs anywhere he wants within a few miles of where they are. I'm beginning to doubt a little if what Lee and Naruto did just now stopped Madara and Obito from having the ability to spew chakra at long range like that with their beast.

Of course, with Minato, Hiruzen, Tobimara, and Hashirama there then Sasuke could be stopped if Kishimoto went to the extreme of having Sasuke hold hostage the village. Ultimately though, it would be up to Orochimaru's decision of wanting to stop Sasuke since he controls Edo Tensei now and the four Hokages to an extent. This though, well, if it were to happen, would he want to stop him? Orochimaru's sounded like he's given up on his desires for destroying the Leaf, but there's a difference between him and Sasuke...

Oh wait, neither of them are dead due to what he did by inserting himself into Sasuke's cursed seal way prior to all of this. So hooray for a possible fight between them if the worst possible things happen! What I might be getting at is that the next few chapters are going to be a huge mess.

My only question is if Kabuto is within a continual genjutsu who would be Orchimaru's right hand? Has Edo Tensei overall been really erased, or is Madara the only unique one here in that regard, and what's happened to poor Anko because of this and Yamato? Both I would assume are dead due to how long they've been used as power cells for both the Zetsu clones and the Edo Tensei, yet, I'm not so sure Kishimoto can't somehow bring them back too.

He frankly has not touched them since they went under. That's all I have to say for or against this chapter.

[Beltran]

A Genjutsu could have been used to make them invisible to everyone else also.

[Beautiful Rogue]

Yeah, it's really not that hard to sneak into a village when the primary force is gone, leaving pretty much only a militia to defend it. You guys are under the assumption that Sasuke and his buddies aren't S-rank ninja who can easily avoid detection.

[j]

Somehow you guys missed it, but Naruto didn't "miss" Obito. There's a cord attaching him to the ten-tails made from wood. He and Madara were using those to control the tailed beast, and the rasenshuriken cut that. Next chapter we get to see how the ten-tails reacts.

[ninjaparty]

Sigh... What's really the problem nowadays with the manga is what constitutes as an S Rank ninja. Sasuke shouldn't have the abilities he has, but then we can never truly know this because if there's one thing manga writers seem to hate it's showing how their characters train and develop over the years. Frankly, they all like making time skips and saying, "X character now has this said ability cause I just wrote about it in this chapter." Lots of mangas seem to do this now, and I really can't stand it. If you're going to tell a manga please don't do super long time skips and then give characters so many new features its a wonder you can even recognize them sometimes. I had to get used to Sai, for one, being on their team because his reason for being in the manga at first was extremely strange and had to be explained better in the anime.

Naruto hasn't done this completely, but there have been offenders of time skips and new, poorly introduced characters... And it's just that, since maybe Naruto's meeting with Killer Bee things have been on shaky ground. I've liked a lot of the chapters, but I can't follow a lot of the sequencing because Kishimoto uses such big panels to fit like 100 people into one, or switches towards one group or another kind of randomly now.

In this chapter for example... I have an issue with him not showing the scene of them actually entering the village. He kind of told it. "Oh look, here's Sasuke standing somewhere... Guess where he is? A dilapidated house, now he's in Konoha!"

I'm sure he could of used a Genjutsu or just forced his way in cause he's S Rank, but why would he? It's easy as hell to find Konoha when you have two former super strong, rogue ninja from said village and two strongmen working together towards a goal as strange as the one he's going for. Why would he need to actually lift a finger? He can kill on sight. Such things of how he got into one situation, and how he uses one jutsu or another aren't as well explained anymore. And it bothers me because...

Frankly, Sasuke has cake walked his way to his goal as of today and he might not even grab it if his new convictions hold. That said, I'm going to love what four village leaders have to tell him about the Uchiha Clan.

"If you want to save the world you must find Shishio Uchiha who's not dead (even Itachi possibly admits this based on the fact he only "disappeared" based on the fact he was the last to see him and did not see him after this), but has been living in a very secret place that only we know about. He knows the real Madara's hatred for us, but we can't tell you what it is cause it's against the law. You'll need to go to the ruins of the country of Uzugakure, which is way across the ocean, but we can get you there in sixty seconds cause we summoned the flying thunder god user Minato."

"Eh, yeah, I can get them there in sixty seconds, but only because I left a kunai there twenty years ago. Man, I have such forgetfulness... Anyway, I have no idea what year this is, but by the looks of things I'm probably dead and the only reason I'm back here is cause you need someone with a brain to solve your problems." As Minato's words might go. We really don't know much about him, except that he looks like Naruto and acts like him in many ways, but it doesn't mean we really know his full personality still. He could say something wrong to Sasuke, any of them could, and then the whole meeting goes kalboom.

Sure fire way to bring out way more chapters if Kishimoto wants to. Although, Sasuke isn't the only one who breaks this rule. There are others, however, some of their reasons for being where they are definitely end up plausible but are stretched. One example is Gaara, I look back on it, and I wonder how he became Kazekage. I mean, was it really explained in the original series that the man who was his father was the fourth Kazekage? We never saw the two ever interact, but Baki who went with them seemed like a powerful and serious guy, so he could have been someone important in the village with his siblings.

I'm beginning if I want from any story I've ever read in recent years more clarity.

[Beautiful Rogue]

You use a lot of words to say very little.

[ninjaparty]

I suppose I do.

[Baek]

I dunno, I think as a chapter, this wasn’t bad. It’s a nice set-up chapter and for the most part it leaves the readers wanting more—what more do you really want from a manga?

That being said, I think the Naruto story has almost moved forward too fast so to speak. We all knew that Madara Uchiha was gonna return sooner or later. We knew Sasuke was gonna probably come back on Naruto at some point. These were things that made the story compelling. The addition of other characters, their histories (such as Kakashi’s and Obito’s) helped make it more interesting. I like what was done with this whole concept.

I think the issue just comes when after the time skip, the world just blows up. Everything happens within a span of months and we go from Orochimaru attempting to take Sasuke’s body to Sasuke & Orochimaru are truth hunters. Forget the fact that I think Edo Tensei is just an incredibly overused story tool; apparently Edo Tensei is the key behind everything that ever happened in the ninja world. I just think there isn’t a lot of substance to the story. For example: We see Kakashi killing Rin. Why? You would think the explanation behind that sort of thing would come up, but nope, we just jump to everything being blown up by the 10 tails and Sasuke doing his own thing.

Sure, I guess it doesn’t matter, but the earlier chapters just seemed to have more flow to them and really allowed you to understand the story that was work. Now it’s hint-hint-hint-hint; okay we’re doing something else now.