Genjutsu question

[Tekato Shimura]

So ive been looking around the index and I couldn't really find any decent techniques for a non-BL character to counter a genjutsu other than the basic gen cancel technique :

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Genjutsu Kaishou (Genjutsu Cancellation)
Rank: "D", "C", "B", "A", "S"
Skill: Ninjutsu/Supplimentary
Effect: The user disrupts the chakra flow within his/her own body to escape a Genjutsu.
Special: Horse - Dragon - Dog - Boar - Monkey - Hare - Tiger
Drawback: The technique has predetermined failure rates for each skill level. The technique can only be used twice per battle.
Description: Genjutsu Kaishou is a Ninjutsu technique that allows the user to negate the effects of an enemy's Genjutsu in order to escape. Once the handseals have been formed, the user would create a disrupting flow of chakra in the brain in order to interrupt the Genjutsu and break it. However, the technique does not always work. If the technique fails, the user cannot perform the technique again until the Genjutsu wears off or is aborted by the Genjutsu user.
D-Rank: At this level the user is capable of cancelling out E-Rank Genjutsu and has a failure rate of 80 percent. A dice roll of 81-100 is required for a successful technique.
C-Rank: At this level the user is capable of cancelling out D-Rank and lower Genjutsu and has a failure rate of 75 percent. A dice roll of 76-100 is required for a successful technique.
B-Rank: At this level the user is capable of cancelling out C-Rank and lower Genjutsu and has a failure rate of 70 percent. A dice roll of 71-100 is required for a successful technique.
A-Rank: At this level the user is capable of cancelling out B-Rank and lower Genjutsu and has a failure rate of 65 percent. A dice roll of 66-100 is required for a successful technique.
S-Rank: At this level the user is capable of cancelling out A-Rank and lower Genjutsu and has a failure rate of 60 percent. A dice roll of 61-100 is required for a successful technique.

Limit: Universal Ninjutsu, Does not take away the universal NinJutsu training points. Must know a Genjutsu is in operation

which doesn't really seem like a very efficient way to contend with a gen master, who will, if you DO get the roll, just barrage you with another technique, and then after that you cant use the tech to get out of any illusion for the rest of the battle.

concern: the above tech is a pretty inefficient way to have fight a gen master, especially since even at S rank, the odds are against you and on top of that, you only have two chances IF you can even tell you are in the genjutsu.

I also saw that by activating the taijutsu gates you can break a genjutsu, which seems reasonable for a tai master, but what about a nin or clan master?

Question: Are there other ways to fight genjutsu as a ninja with no doujutsu or BL to block them?

[FallenKeeper]

Well, teammates are a good help. And if you realize you're in a Genjutsu I'd suspect hurting yourself a bit would dispel the jutsu. But I'm not 100% certain. If we're going off the manga a comrade could disrupt your chakra flow with their own and thus break you out of the Gen. Seeing as how not everything is based fully on the manga I'd look at specific techs and find some way to break them without going OOC in the situation. Difficult as that sounds -_-'

[Koori.]

Pain would be the most effective way to do it. Or have an ally or shadow clone push their chakra into you and break the flow of the illusion.

It should be noted that it should be an efficient amount of pain, don't half ass it.

[Tekato Shimura]

hmm so would pain work even if im in the genjutsu? like if i was in a position where my body was collapsed and useless since my mind was trapped in a genjutsu, if i willingly stab myself in the thigh while in the genjutsu it would dispel it? even though i wouldnt REALLY be stabbing myself in the thigh since my body cant move due to the genjutsu. Or would someone else have to stab me in the thigh?

[Koori.]

Feb 6, 2012 15:44:37 GMT -7 Tekato Shimura said:

hmm so would pain work even if im in the genjutsu? like if i was in a position where my body was collapsed and useless since my mind was trapped in a genjutsu, if i willingly stab myself in the thigh while in the genjutsu it would dispel it? even though i wouldnt REALLY be stabbing myself in the thigh since my body cant move due to the genjutsu. Or would someone else have to stab me in the thigh?

You couldn't stab yourself then, because your mind would be tricked into thinking you cannot move as part of the illusion. Someone else could stab you, but it would be far more beneficial to just have them trust their own chakra into you to break the Gen that way.....

[Hyuuga Sadako]

I don't know if it still exists but there was a lightning release technique to shock you out of it too.

[roko]

Activating the gates dispels genjutsu and keeps them all from happening to you .

[Tekato Shimura]

so it looks like the main tip im getting is as a normal dude ill need a team to back me up unless i have gates or some other way of combating it alone. thanks guys, if anyone has any thing new to contribute, feel free to add, but if not, this can be locked.

[Raika Tatsu]

Also, you can use Animal Companions to induce pain if need be, as long as they aren't affected by the Gen as well. lol

[|Ayame Unbound|]

Locked.