Training From Hell.

[Moon]

Suggestion: Training From Hell [TFH]


Concept: Multi-person events that reward TP upon completion instead of any monetaruy/item reward, and increase player interaction. This is conceived as a way to push the limits of a character, as well as to provide an alternative to the grind of training. Combat-focused, these events are meant to showcase extraordinary training obstacles for roleplayers to overcome, in the interest of pushing their power to the limit.

Two (or more) roleplayers participate in these events; eaxh restricted to the use of a single technique tree of their own choosing - the focus of their Training From Hell. By using only these techniques, the roleplayers' knowledge within the tree logically grows, their actual experience practicing a particular discipline increases, alllowing one to more easily incorporate new maneuvers and jutsu into their repertoire.

This is also incredibly easy to track for staff trying to keep account of TP; not only are they required to grade this training in the first place, but threads can simply be marked [TFH].

This places some responsibility on the roleplayers, however. They're expected to actually test each other, to push one another's boundaries. If this doesn't happen, TO isn't awarded, simple as that.

These wouldnt count as IM's or regular Events; ninja from different villages can participate with one another in Training From Hell events, if they so choose. The conditions that bring possibly conflicting characters into this sort of situation are left to the discretion and skill of the participants.


Restrictions:

These are all just a big sugestion, in that any part of it is open to be tweaaked/changed/ignored completely, if such a thing might help the idea (or something like it)happen. Just think it'd be cool.

[~Emi~]

There really isn't much need for something like these kind of events as everyone can gain TP from doing B ranked+ events and IMs, even though its not that much and few actually utilize it, but also to just do normal training while doing regular missions. Source to event and IM TP

[Moon]

I'm having difficulty understanding how "We already have something nothing like what you suggested" translates to not 'needing' something like this. I'm also confused as to how 'need' is a valid criterion for a 'suggestion'.

[Deleted]

basically what you're proposing is a drastic upscaling and diversifying of the aforementioned system, whether you realize it or not.

"need" is not a criteria for suggestions, but "dont need" is a criteria for declining. or at least putting it on the back burner. and by "dont need" i mean "this is way way overboard"

👺 Usiel has already made several concessions regarding training, such as allowing multiple people to train without taking up their roleplay thread, and allowing training center bonuses to cross +10 training points. more to the point, given the amount of posting needed to run an event successfully such a thing is...well, we literally already have it. at 12 tp per post maximum, you'll get your 120-ish training points in 10-12 rounds assuming you maintain a consistent quality. which is about as long as a small scale event and significantly less hassle. it would just be adding more rules for the sake of adding more rules.

[Moon]

Yes, i do realize it. Upscaling and diversifying are good things, normally, but apparently not here.


Imagine that a 10 year old boy held a public forum, asking for suggestions on ways he could improve his life, in the interest of bettering himself. Now imagine you are told the this 10 year old will only accept suggestions that he needs to do anyway, suggestions such as 'you should breathe' or 'drink water' or 'your heart should beat', etc. And then the child says it's not that need = the only suggestions he'll take its just that 'don't need' = the only suggestions he won't take.

If you are incapable of seeeing the absurdity of this set of circumstances, or of seeing the parallels to this situation, then you are operating in a different type of reality than I am.


Training in a thread alone is significantly less hassle than interacting with others. Would you suggest we all stop having any other types of threads, to save us this effort?This suggestion would simply allow a new avenue for interaction/training that wasn't the same old same old, that's all. To encounter nonsensical resistance - attempts to sway my opinion about the idea by misrepresenting it...twice...as opposed to simply providing logical/tangible reasons it cant/shouldn't be done. It's more than a little offputting.


For clarification; I am aware of the current ways to gain tp.  The argument that these methods promote interactions between players but are simply underutilized  is evidence that they do not intrinsically promote su character interaction.  

[Lash]

I also think that there should be different ways to gain TP, and this does so in a way that promotes character interaction. Two birds with one stone. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

That being said, this forum is famously resistant (though some small concessions have been made over time, I'll grant that) to anything that changes the status quo regarding the ways to gain TP, even though the majority of the players who oppose sensible change to TP gaining (some exceptions apply) have earned more TP from site giveaways than through training or IM threads. Take from that what you will. I wish you luck with this endeavor though.